Talk:Rankin (name)

clan Duille

The edit to the current form, from how it was posited makes it seem like it is just mentioning a particular family "Rankin" at the top, and I fear it may be removed as cruft. Whereas it was previous mentioned that the Rankins who were the pipers to various Scottish clans were in early times clan Duille and still retain a unique Rankin tartan, being a sect of another clan. This should be maintained clearly in my opinion to make the article appear more encyclopedic rather than just favored information about one family. 4.255.50.203 (talk) 18:04, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

The pipers were one particular Hebridean family. The article is about the surname not one family. Most Rankins originate from Ayrshire not the Hebrides. Even today most Scots Rankins live in East Ayrshire. The article shouldn't misrepresent the whole name as pipers to Hebridean clan chiefs.--Celtus (talk) 07:46, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Thats funny, because there are no documents that support the fact that Rankins are from Ayrshire originally. I will not dispute that there are alot of Rankins in Ayrshire. The Rankins or ( Clan Duille) were part of the Dalraidic migration from parts of north western Ireland and south western Scotland around 840. The Clan Duille or (Rankins) are originally from an ancient gaelic kingdom that inhabited parts of Ireland and Scotland. Evidence suggests that any Rankins after this time that lived in Ayrshire were direct desendents of this clan. Im going to go out on a limb here but, I would think because there is no other clan that claims to have a sept by the name Rankin that all Rankins originated from this clan. The artical was descibing the origin of the Rankins and culture behind the origin (bagpipes), not the Rankins that strayed to Ayrshire to retreat from the clan feuds. The artical should have mentioned that a large population of the Rankins are presently located in Ayrshire. There are more branches to the clan MacLean than just one. The Rankins Supplied music for all of Mull and differant nobles of clan MacLean, this could not be done by one meer family. The Rankins were incharge of there own piping college in Mull which closed around 1754 when the Macleans lost there lands to the lord of the Ilse, this is when most the Rankins relocated to differant parts of Scotland (Ayrshire). The college was not to train one individual to succeed the last. The college trained many Rankins in the art of piobaireachd. The MacCrimmons and the Rankins would cross train there students, being the two accelerated piping clans of the time. It is most likely that all Rankins of true bloodline are decendants of the Clan Duille. Most Rankins may not be related to the legendary Con-duiligh Rankin but are related to the earlier Rankin pipers of 1300 to 1700. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.103.35.221 (talk) 17:18, 9 February 2010 (UTC)