Talk:Randy Travis
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Filmography
[edit]Travis also has an extensive filmography which should probably be included. --66.253.174.65 01:31, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Need to do articles on the albums and then #1 singles
[edit]I'll do what I can, but I'm an utter novice at creating articles for albums. I've only done a handful, and even then I didn't have what it takes to make infoboxes with images of the covers, etc. I've wikilinked a couple of album titles and the titles for all the #1 singles, to cue in other editors that these are ripe for articles. Lawikitejana 20:57, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
personal life
[edit]what happened to the personal life section? E A (talk) 02:27, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
Someone really needs to get n touch with me as soon as possible,someone is frameing Randy,with a lot of stuff Little pink moma (talk) 01:00, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
Probation Period
[edit]February 6th to September 23rd is not ninety days. By all accounts, his probation, if it was truly that lengthy, would have ended around the 8th of May, give or take a day or two for jail sentence and bail, etc. The only way that his probation would've extended that long is if he had not paid his fine and been to court for several months after the incident (more around May, or June, really). That section either needs more info or more clarification. MethodicMockingbird (talk) 15:09, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
Randy's Legal Issues
[edit]There's apparently a mistake with the Legal issues section on Randy's Article saying that he was intoxicated and went to the Hospital on August 24, 2012. The Dallas Morning news is reporting that TMZ's report is not true. http://www.dallasnews.com/entertainment/music/headlines/20120824-randy-travis-allegedly-in-fight-near-texas-church.ece--Chase287 (talk) 16:47, 24 August 2012 (UTC) Dallas Morning News appears to have changed the link to this: http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2012/08/report-for-the-second-time-this-month-randy-travis-has-a-drunken-run-in-with-police-this-time-in-plano.html/ report- Randy Travis issued simple assault citation in Plano Robinrobin (talk) 17:45, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
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I would love to review this article about hall of fame country music star Randy Travis. Reviewer: Lightburst (talk · contribs) 17:29, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
9144 words so it make take a few days to review. I will work on this.
Suggestions
[edit]- Lead, I have trouble finding this in the body. (charted more than 50 singles on the Billboard Hot Country Songs charts)
- Lead - suggest encyclopedic description instead of "broke through"
- Lead -Suggest using the word several in place of (a number of) in the lead
- Biography - suggest changing acquired to (committed a number of criminal offenses)
- Biography - Ricky dropped out of the competition partway through as he has to serve time at a youth detention center, (This sentence should probably replace has with had)
- Biography - coming under custody of the Hatchers suggest adding (the) before custody
- Biography - "club after a number of altercations with patrons" (a number of) is not specific so I suggest changing a few of the seven occurrences. For this occurance I suggest omitting so that it just reads (club after altercations with patrons)
- 1985–1986: Storms of Life section - popular in sales and listener demand in spite of its initially low chart peak. Instead of "in spite of" suggest (despite)
- 1987–1988: Always & Forever - During promotion of the album. suggest adding (the) before promotion
- 1987–1988: Always & Forever - instead of the link to Vanderbilt University ink to Vanderbilt University Medical Center
- 1988–1990: Old 8×10 and No Holdin' Back - but was moved up to June 30 in order to make it eligible for CMA Awards. Instead of (in order to) suggest just (to)
- 1990–1992: Heroes & Friends, High Lonesome, and greatest-hits albums - Friends" at the 1991 CMA awards telecast - I think awards should be capitalized in this use.
- 1990–1992: Heroes & Friends, High Lonesome, and greatest-hits albums - refused to answer them as he did not think the song itself was political in nature. suggest removing the words (in nature)
- 1990–1992: Heroes & Friends, High Lonesome, and greatest-hits albums - Despite these songs' successes at radio, suggest (on radio)
- 1992–1995: Wind in the Wire and This Is Me - singles reaching top 40 on the Billboard charts.[2] However, lead single. suggest adding (the) before lead single
- 1996–1997: Full Circle -failed to reach top 20 on the country charts, suggest (the) before top 20.
- 1996–1997: Full Circle - Ely considered the album "strong as ever", with focus on Lehning's production. suggest adding (a) before focus
- 1996–1997: Full Circle - Don Yates found influence of honky-tonk. Suggest adding (the) before influence
- 1996–1997: Full Circle - disagreements over promotion of Full Circle. suggest adding (the) before promotion
- 1997–1999: DreamWorks Records - The track won Grammy Award for Best Country. suggest (a) before Grammy
- 2000–2003: Switch to gospel and "Three Wooden Crosses" - Rise and Shine won Grammy Award. suggest adding (a) before Grammy
- 2000–2003: Switch to gospel and "Three Wooden Crosses" - "Pray for the Fish" won Dove Award. suggest adding (a) before Dove
- 2003–2007: Continued gospel albums - It, too, won Grammy Award for Best Southern. Suggest adding (a) before Grammy
- 2008–2011: Return to Warner and Carrie Underwood version of "I Told You So" - Travis promoted the album on an interview. suggest (in) an interview
- Personal life - Because of the serecy of their marriage - misspelling of secrecy
- Personal life - In early 1991, tabloid National Enquirer - Suggest adding (the) before tabloid
- Personal life - Journalist Michael Corcoran noted that Travis's and Hatcher's marriage. I think just (Travis) or you can scrap this and just say {their marriage)
- Personal life - while intoxicated and terroristic threat against a public servant. Should it be (threats)?
- Personal life - Dash cam - WP has it as one word (dashcam)
- Personal life - In July 2013, Travis exeperienced difficulty - experienced is misspelled
- Personal life - while working at out at his home gym. extra word (at)
- Personal life - pneumonia led to Travis under going three - I think undergoing is one word
- I think I addressed all the issues above. As for the count of 50 singles, the Whitburn source lists "Angels" as his 50th charted single (every chart entry has a number before it) so I added a mention there. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:50, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- @TenPoundHammer: Thanks, I really enjoy the article. I hope to continue reviewing and complete this by the weekend. I will spot check citations. One concern is the image of the mural. But I am not 100% sure about the suitability based on 2d US FOP so lets not delete it yet. We may need to ask a commons expert. Lightburst (talk) 19:00, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- @TenPoundHammer: Lightburst (talk) 19:01, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Good article @TenPoundHammer:. Thanks for sticking with me to address minor issues. Lightburst (talk) 23:20, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- @TenPoundHammer: Lightburst (talk) 19:01, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- @TenPoundHammer: Thanks, I really enjoy the article. I hope to continue reviewing and complete this by the weekend. I will spot check citations. One concern is the image of the mural. But I am not 100% sure about the suitability based on 2d US FOP so lets not delete it yet. We may need to ask a commons expert. Lightburst (talk) 19:00, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
Citations
[edit]- Done Earwig only shows to song titles, so no issue
- WP:ALLMUSIC is a yellow source in Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources and it is used for twenty citations. Suggest we try to replace some of these sources.
- It seems the issue is only when AllMusic is used for biographical information. For verifying a track listing or quoting a review, there seem to be no issues. Are there cases where you think its use may be dubious? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 20:55, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- I think where there are more robust sources which say the same thing, we should think about using them. The very first one in the article is citing biographical details. Lightburst (talk) 22:17, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- The Cusic source is used 50+ times for citations. Are there any of these citations which can be replaced? Also see the source here but our citations do not have a link to it. Appears to be a good source so if you cannot I understand. My concern, there are 194 references and this source accounts for 25% of all citations. Then the other source allmusic accounts for 10% of all citations. Lightburst (talk) 22:43, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- I moved the one AllMusic ref and tried to condense some of the Cusic references where I could. I also added a link to the archive.org upload. I couldn't immediately find anything to balance out the Cusic references in the first half of the article, but it should be good as the book does appear to be reputable. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 04:43, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for checking that out. I will continue reviewing. I am on citation checking today. I posted a question about the mural image on WP:GA but nobody responded. Hopefully we will hear something soon. Lightburst (talk) 15:02, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- I moved the one AllMusic ref and tried to condense some of the Cusic references where I could. I also added a link to the archive.org upload. I couldn't immediately find anything to balance out the Cusic references in the first half of the article, but it should be good as the book does appear to be reputable. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 04:43, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- The Cusic source is used 50+ times for citations. Are there any of these citations which can be replaced? Also see the source here but our citations do not have a link to it. Appears to be a good source so if you cannot I understand. My concern, there are 194 references and this source accounts for 25% of all citations. Then the other source allmusic accounts for 10% of all citations. Lightburst (talk) 22:43, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- I think where there are more robust sources which say the same thing, we should think about using them. The very first one in the article is citing biographical details. Lightburst (talk) 22:17, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
- Done Spot checked biography, music career and storms of life sections.
- Done Spot checked 1987–1988: Always & Forever section
- Done Spot checked references in the article.
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- Unsure about the mural because the US does not have FOP for 2d art Lightburst (talk) 18:55, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
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- I would prefer more images of the subject, but the images of other stars are related. Lightburst (talk) 18:55, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
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Did you know nomination
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Bruxton talk 16:38, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
- ... that after country music singer Randy Travis had a stroke in 2013, his fiancée was told that he had a one percent chance of survival? Source: Travis had suffered a stroke... he was placed on life support, medical providers told his then-fiancee, Mary, that he had a 1 percent chance of survival and she should consider taking him off life support.
- ALT1: ... that country music singer Randy Travis had his first number one single with the song "On the Other Hand" in 1986? Source: On the Other Hand" reached the number-one spot on Billboard's country singles chart
- ALT2: ... that a 2013 stroke caused Randy Travis to lose his ability to sing, but after therapy, he performed the song "Amazing Grace" at his 2016 induction into the Country Music Hall of Fame? Source: Three years and three months later, Travis walked on stage last fall to be inducted into the Country Music Hall of Fame. He stood throughout his induction and then stunned the room, singing “Amazing Grace.” and “I wanted to sing, and I tried, but the words and melody would not come together in my mind,” Travis wrote in his memoir.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Milwaukee Brewers ball-in-glove logo
Improved to Good Article status by TenPoundHammer (talk). Nominated by Lightburst (talk) at 16:28, 23 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Randy Travis; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- @Lightburst: Personally, I think a hook about James Dupré would be the most interesting. Something like Alt3
...that, after Randy Travis lost most of his singing ability to a stroke in 2013, James Dupré has sung his songs for him in concert?
Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 17:55, 23 February 2024 (UTC)- Here is the source for that hook. Lightburst (talk) 18:16, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
Article has reached GA status in the time frame of the nomination. Excellent article that is supported throughout with quality RS. All three hooks are verified to cited sources. Out of respect for TenPoundHammer who put in the work, I agree in using the James Dupré Alt 3 hook. I checked, and www.whiskeyriff.com/ has editorial staff for its writers, so it fine as a source. The picture has the proper license and can be used. This hook can be promoted.4meter4 (talk) 05:46, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
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