Talk:Ramming

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Sheep?

Is there any connection with the word "ram", as in the male sheep? Isn't this what they use their horns for? DS 13:57, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's dereived from 'battering ram' as stated, as far as I know this got it's name because battering rams were sometimes sculpted with the heads of rams. Plus ram is a commonly used verb for a forced thrust, this may also be derived from a verb for the headbutting of sheep. --Preasure 21:53, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

V-1

RAF pilots used to "touch" V-1 missiles heading for London with the tip of their wings to destabilize them. Does this qualify as ramming ? Nicolas1981 (talk) 23:52, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it does. Due to the V1's high speed only the fastest aircraft could expect to succeed in this; even then, the pilot had already to be in place waiting for a dumb victim to show up. Preplanning and luck played a part. Binksternet (talk) 07:27, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I was about to add this piece of information, but I re-read the V-1 article to be sure, and I could only find the following as an attack technique:

These included the hair-raising method of using the airflow over an interceptor's wing to raise one wing of the Doodlebug, by sliding the wingtip to within six inches (15 cm) of the lower surface of the V-1's wing. If properly executed, this manoeuvre would tip the V-1's wing up, overriding the gyros and sending the V-1 into an out-of-control dive. At least three V-1s were destroyed this way.

So, is this "touch" thing nothing more than a legend ? Nicolas1981 (talk) 21:00, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hair-raising indeed. I'd count six inches as a touch; in practice, there'd certainly be a touch or two over a number of attempts. It is getting somewhat away from ramming, though. There's no wikipedia page for precision formation air attacks... o_O Binksternet (talk) 00:57, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Prose description in general or lists of specific ramming events

I would like to see this article retain its flowing prose descriptions of the general trends of ramming peppered with specific descriptions of significant ramming attacks. I don't think that attempting to compile comprehensive lists of individual rammings for each belligerent will add much value; in fact, I think such a development of this article will help readers turn away and prevent them from finishing the whole page. Binksternet (talk) 05:20, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've deleted the list for the reasons given above. Binksternet (talk) 14:40, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Additional: first jet-fighter ramming

28 November 1973 Soviet MiG-21SM Fishbed pilot Gennadii N. Eliseev intercepted an Imperial Iranian Air Force RF-4E Phantom II in Soviet airspace. After an unsuccessful attempt at firing a AA-2 Atoll missile at the Phantom, Eliseev destroyed the Phantom by ramming it. The Phantom's crew of IIAF pilot Major Shokouhnia and USAF backseater Saunders parachuted to safety and were captured by Soviet border guards. They were released 16 days later.

http://www.silent-warriors.com/shootdown_list.html In Russian ru:Елисеев, Геннадий Николаевич —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.154.203.7 (talk) 13:03, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tanks

I remember reading a few accounts of tanks ramming other tanks during the second world war... I'll try to track something down and add it, but if anyone else has some info, please include it in the article Mike McGregor (Can) (talk) 22:00, 11 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have seen descriptions of a Sherman ramming a Tiger in the Operation Goodwood article, but the current tank ramming paragraph in the Ramming article cites no sources; multiple (internet) sources also claim that soviets ramming German tanks is a myth. 77.57.23.123 (talk) 21:05, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Non-military ramming with vehicles

No mention is made of vehicular ramming where a car or truck is used to ram another for various reasons, or used to ram a non-vehicle target. Binksternet (talk) 18:50, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

USAF

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_XP-79 AThousandYoung (talk) 22:31, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That aircraft was supposed to be fitted with guns—it was not designed for ramming. Binksternet (talk) 04:53, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

kamikazes?

Why are the Japanese kamikazes not mentioned? They seem to fit the definition.SpecInterest (talk) 15:40, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Should the 30 March 2020 - Naiguatá > RCGS Resolute "ramming" be removed?

The Official Report by the Portuguese authorities concluded that, while the collision was caused by the Naiguatá and appeared intentional, they may not have intended to ram the RCGS Resolute. The collision may have been caused by a suction effect between the vessels as the faster patrol boat passed the bow of the cruise ship.

It should be noted that both sides have argued that the other ship rammed them.

Including this collision in this article as X rammed Y, when the 3rd party investigator has concluded that it may have been accidental, seems misleading. 2601:19A:C101:1459:B54D:4BF9:97B0:562B (talk) 23:14, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]