Talk:Ralph Schwamb

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On 11 May 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from Blackie Schwamb to Ralph Schwamb. The result of the discussion was moved.

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Rename proposal Blackie Schwamb --> Ralph Schwamb

Consistent with recent discussion at WT:BASEBALL, this is a proposal to rename biographical article Blackie Schwamb to Ralph Schwamb. Searching on newspapers.com finds that during Schwamb's time in professional baseball (1947–1949 and 1961), especially with the St. Louis Browns in 1948, he was referred to as "Ralph Schwamb" much more than "Blackie Schwamb" — use of the nickname "Blackie" with Schwamb is not found prior to March 1949. Note that Schwamb was charged and convicted of murder in 1949 (hence his absence from professional baseball between 1950 and 1960). Search examples, all done on newspapers.com:

"ralph schwamb" baseball for 1947–1949 gets 623 hits
"blackie schwamb" baseball for 1947–1949 gets 89 hits
"ralph schwamb" pitcher for 1947–1949 gets 793 hits
"blackie schwamb" pitcher for 1947–1949 gets 179 hits
"ralph schwamb" browns pitcher for 1948 gets 305 hits
"blackie schwamb" browns pitcher for 1948 gets 0 hits
"ralph schwamb" murder for 1949 gets 235 hits
"blackie schwamb" murder for 1949 gets 191 hits
"ralph schwamb" baseball for 1961 gets 93 hits
"blackie schwamb" baseball for 1961 gets 12 hits
"ralph schwamb" pitcher for 1961 gets 86 hits
"blackie schwamb" pitcher for 1961 gets 12 hits

As there is no current article named "Ralph Schwamb" on Wikipedia, this would be a straightforward move, with "Blackie Schwamb" continuing to redirect users to the new article title. Comments welcome—please reply in the below section. Dmoore5556 (talk) 02:21, 11 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 11 May 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Elli (talk | contribs) 09:52, 18 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Blackie Schwamb → Ralph Schwamb – Ralph Richard Schwamb was primarily referred to as "Ralph Schwamb" during his time playing professional baseball (1947–1949 and 1961), and during 1949 when he was charged and convicted of murder. While baseball reference sites such as Baseball-Reference.com and Retrosheet list him (or have previously listed him) as "Blackie Schwamb", that name was not used nearly as often as Ralph Schwamb by contemporary newspaper reports. The results of searches conducted via newspapers.com are listed on the Talk page. Dmoore5556 (talk) 02:28, 11 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom – Muboshgu (talk) 17:20, 14 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.