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Red Arrows

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Were the Red Arrows really named in accordance with this scheme? Drutt (talk) 15:05, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No – they were amalgamated from two display teams, The RED Pelicans (Red and white Jet Provosts), and the Black ARROWS ( Black Hawker Hunters). I did add this to the Wiki Red Arrows page a couple of years ago but someone later removed it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.40.250.235 (talk) 20:25, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Shame that someone removed your explanation of their name. If you have a reference for it, I vote you please put it back again because this is genuinely encyclopaedic information. (Some people object to others messing with 'their' articles; ignore them!) --Wally Tharg (talk) 22:39, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately I don't have a reference as I read this decades ago (around 1977) in an edition of Scale Models magazine in an article on the two teams and what became the Red Arrows.
At the time the RAF had no official display team, these such as the Red Pelicans, Black Arrows, and the Yellowjacks (Gnats), being organised by various squadrons on their own initiative, however when it was decided to form an official RAF team - the Red Arrows - it was formed from personnel from the Red Pelicans and the Black Arrows - 111 Squadron. The resulting name of the display team was a combination of the two previous names as mentioned above. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.7.147.13 (talk) 09:41, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How about some references?

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While many of these projects may well be real, I have a hard time believing in some of them due to the lack of inline references. Can this article be checked for possible hoaxes? Astronaut (talk) 12:46, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think the ones that don't have articles certainly do. The ones that do have articles aren't as much of a problem as they can be verified through the wiki link (providing the article is itself referenced). Deano8216 (talk) 14:45, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I know for a fact that Green Mace is real, even though it has no linked article. For many years they had the prototype at IWM Duxford ... anyone care to write a stub about it? --Wally Tharg (talk) 22:39, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
A lot of them are sourced from here: [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.7.147.13 (talk) 18:11, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
... and here; The Real Meaning of the Words: A Pedantic Glossary of British Nuclear Weapons
BTW, info in Green Mace here: [2] and other UK projects here: [3]— Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.7.147.13 (talk) 16:30, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Black Banana

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Does anyone have a reliable source for the Buccaneer aircraft being jokingly called the 'Black Banana'? (Rick Jolly's Jackspeak has its nickname as the 'Buccanana'.) The origin apparently lay in Blackburn (the original manufacturer) getting the contract for the Advanced Royal Naval Aircraft (ARNA), hence 'Blackburn ARNA' ... which was quickly corrupted by Jack to the 'Black Banana'. Obviously we cannot add an entry that appears to be a hoax without a good source. --Wally Tharg (talk) 22:39, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You could try looking at these contemporary Flight articles: [4] - you will need a PDF reader to view them. I seem to remember somewhere that it was the 'Blackburn Advanced Naval Aircraft' (BANA) at the early specification stage though before it emerged as the NA.39 (Buccaneer).
BTW, this 1958 [5] Flight article is by Bill Gunston. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.7.147.13 (talk) 19:49, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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