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Name for non high-speed lines in English

There appears to be confusion over what to call the pre-LGV lines, known in French as lignes classiques, in the English Wikipedia articles so I started this discussion here to keep it on one place. Across the articles I have seen them referred to as classic lines, conventional lines and normal tracks in addition to lignes classiques. In trying to search reliable sources I have found the terms "classic" network and "classic" line with quotation marks used by British compact paper the Independent. The term "classic" is also used by British-based railway video producer Video 125 in the forms of "classic main line" and "normal or classic French railways" in the English-language commentary for their 2011 video Strasbourg to Paris. The use of "classic lines" is understandable as it is a literal translation of lingnes classiques although the French term could be used as a neutral name, if there is no universally accepted name in English, given many English-speakers are familiar with the French names for stations in France e.g. Gare du Nord as opposed to "North Station" and the French names are used for individual high-speed lines e.g. LGV Est. "Normal lines" appears to be a colloquialism so I would advise against using it in articles as we are meant to use formal language. The term "conventional" could be confusing as Project V150 (High Speed Train) - France is referred to as breaking the record for the fastest conventional train (as opposed to maglevs or rocket sleds). Tk420 (talk) 21:53, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Shinkansen uses the term "conventional", as does High-speed rail in China though it also uses the term to describe lines steel rail relative to maglev. High-speed rail talks about classic (in the context of France) and conventional, regular, and traditional. --Cornellier (talk) 14:06, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]