Talk:Radar (song)/Archive 1

Official Airplay?

ok, the only "Radio Promo" that was set for release in 2009 was the UK, apart from that, the rest of the countries were played of the album. Now Breathe On Me was removed becuase "Airplay from Album" wasnt considered a proper release. Now, Breathe on Me was removed (which was an idea i agree with), so i think "Rdar" airplay in the US, Italy, And Europe should be removed, due to previous circustances.<EDIT: it was also probably played off the 2008 promo they had been playing from since 2008> --Apeaboutsims (talk) 01:16, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

i think it should be removed from official airplay. people cant have it both ways, and make exceptions for some songs, then others not. plus, the source for it to be released on Italy shouldn't be a reliable source, as there are spelling mistakes on peoples names eg.BAYONCE. even though its a different language, names are always spelled the same--Jackex56 (talk) 01:28, 27 September 2009 (UTC).

i vote that it shouldn't be official release due to what has been said. plus the airplay of "Radar" in US, well, its was getting airplay since since 2008's release, however, it just increased when the video came out, it was always played on the radio--58.161.68.159 (talk) 01:31, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

ok ill change it now! and ill aslo add the airplay release to "From Blackout". plus for people who may change it back. there is no proof that another CD promo was sent "Worldwide" again for "Radar" so you cant add it as a Re-Release. all that happened was that Airplay picked up again! that is all. (Except In The UK where it was offcially Re-Released) --Morgan3136 (talk) 02:33, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

CD Single

ok, in And Then We Kiss, we told people that there was a CD single that was canceled in 2005, and we put it on th release history. however, we didn't put the canceled track listing of the CD single in there. but its here in the radar article. i think we should remove it because all is going to do is confuse people. but we should keep the i tunes thing there though.--58.161.68.159 (talk) 23:00, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

i agree, why put something there that doesn't actually exist? it may have been available for pre-order, but there was no cover, no release, and only registered on one site. it could have been false. (and most of the time it is false becuase there has been two rumours of a cd single on amazon only and both of them never were released, which usually means its fake or a rumour) amazon has been known to put up pre-orders "just in case" rather than because they have received and order --Jackex56 (talk) 00:53, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

I have to agree on this one. Radr was not released to cd single, no cover art was confirmed for the CD single release, and was posted on one site. the CD release should be taken off--Apeaboutsims (talk) 01:11, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

ok, ill remove it then, but ill also remove it from the And Then We Kiss article too. Plus, i will add more info to the "Blackout" Template--Morgan3136 (talk) 09:45, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

ok--Apeaboutsims (talk)

COVER ART

Before anyone changes this I hope they read this. The Red Version that has the blackout font was made by a fan, and was never used as a cover for radar. And yes promo singles were sent out to other countries outside the United States. That cover is almost certain the real one, mainly because no fans made it, and it looks very similar to the real Break The Ice cover.

Here is the source that the red one is FAKE! [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moairguard (talk • contribs) 21:41, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

If it's fake, why is it used here? SwedishCharts.com pancakemistake (talk) 13:34, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

---Dude, Read The Link Posted and it says "I Made This Cover Art", That means the cover art is NOT Real!!! A Lot of second hand sites use fake cover arts, Britney spears Blackout had six covers that were used by certain online stores all over the world. That's why. The Single was re-called, so there was NO image to use but one they could find. And the other one looks like the one for Break The Ice, so its prob the official one.

--- It is real bacuase people were syaing they made a replica. if you look down further. (on the first site). Jive actually sent out the radio promo and it can also be viewed on discogs. plus on britneys offcial page they used it as well. it is real. it should stay. (also britneys site also made a remix widget, (which was made by jive) which contains the final single art. (its noted as the orginal). but it hard to say if it was jive's cover artists having some fun, however, jive cant use the fan artwork in a product if they dont state it is, or dont pay the orginal owner money. the remix widget is her: . you can see it on the player menu.

Okay, you guys are ridiculous.

I know some of you are way too high on your horse to be able to allow other people to edit 'your' work... but come on, seriously. When your information isn't 100% accurate, there is NO excuse for removing someone elses corrections. Whoever removed the part about the South Africa release is pathetic. Wikipedia is a collaboration website... Be a little more humble and allow people to correct your work, because it's inaccurate. Seriously, get over yourself.--MarkDau (talk) 02:27, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. It's Ridiculous to Remove peolple's Work! Especially when it's correct! --FenechSalerno (talk)

What The Hec! WHO ERASED THE CLUB PART!

Who Deleted the part about it only being released to clubs? That is true and there was a source. STOP DELETING THINGS THAT ARE TRUE ON HERE JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE READ OR HEARD OTHERWISE!!!! NOW I'MA TRY TO PUT IT BACK, DON'T GET RID OF IT! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.130.229.254 (talk) 19:55, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes I agree with that, I provided some information with references to another article and it was removed. I t's time to take a stand!--Seán Travers (talk) 00:04, 5 July 2008 (UTC)Seán Travers

yes people have to understand that its not thier page. so just becuase they dont like it, doesnt mean it shouldnt be there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.101.243.19 (talk) 08:31, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Please Someone Help

With all the rumors and radio sites that have Radar released in the United States and UK in July, please someone help this page into finding out witch one is true. Jive has announced they have canceled it, but radio stations say that they have been told it is now going to be released. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.130.229.254 (talk) 21:18, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Radar Has Been Scrapped For Real

It has been confirmed From Jive Records that There will be know more singles Form Blackout and both Jive U.S. and JiveUK have confirmed it. Sad. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.130.241.140 (talk) 01:26, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Radar Not Being Released

Please do not delete it because I put a source on the bottom. (It is just a rumor for now though)

Yep It was Just a Rumor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moairguard (talk • contribs) 17:56, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

---

Update: It's actually not being released. Blackout, as an album, is finished... completely. Britney's label has ceased all promotions due to Britney's sixth studio album (which has begun production) which is set to be released sometime this coming holiday season.

A new source is needed

The source provided that this was a promo single released in certain territories [2] says nothing about this song being released. A new, reliable source is needed ASAP or I'm nominating this article for deletion. I'm having doubts about the validity of the image as well. This article's creator has a history of introducing inappropriate pages to Wikipedia. Can someone provide a real source here? - eo 00:38, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Upon further inspection I see that all of the supposed chart positions sources also have nothing about "Radar". This looks really fake to me. - eo 00:43, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

This Article Is Correct!

The Clutch did say in an interview that Britney's record label told them it would be the 4th single.

The chart positions are true, check on Billboard!

And the Music video rumor is also true! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ikkomuitnederland (talk • contribs) 12:28, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

M.V.

INFO ABOUT THE MUSIC VIDEO:[3]

PLEASE SOMEONE ADD IT......

J.s.a.s. (talk) 22:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

MTV.ES IS A EXREAMLY RELIABLE SOURCE!!!!

I added crutial info. that the song WAS in fact being released by Song BMG Mexico, giving MTV.es as the source. That info. was deleted, i'd like to know why. MTV is a sister corporation to Sony BMG and many of its counterparts, why would they give unreliable info? Ttlovesleo11 (talk) 01:17, 14 July 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ttlovesleo11 (talk • contribs) 01:13, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

'Scrapped' as a Single

I was wondering if the statement that Radar has been 'scrapped as a single' should remain in the article, considering it is unsourced (as well as unfounded). I have also done research into the topic and have found no statement by Jive Records, Jive UK, or Sony/BMG that there will be no more singles from Blackout. This is pure speculation. In contrast, physical CD singles have emerged on Ebay, as well as supposed radio releases to Latin America, South Africa, and parts of Europe.
I'm reluctant to remove anything myself -being relatively new on wikipedia- but would like to see that part of the article corrected, given that it is only encouraging further speculation and disinformation.Ivan ballet izzle (talk) 11:10, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

"Radar" – Song or Single?

I'm wondering if "Radar should be called a single or if it shouldn't. It has been added and removed to {{Britney Spears singles}} a couple of times, it was listed multiple times in national single charts, currently we are calling it a "single by Britney Spears" on Radar (song), but it was never released as a physical single. I for one would support adding it to the template as the fourth Blackout single. If consensus is against it the article should probably be changed though to describe it as a song. --Amalthea^Talk 19:26, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

"Mannequin"

In none of the three sources given so far is "Mannequin" described as the "next single". All I see is a title of a song that is probably on the next Britney Spears album. I'd remove it again, per WP:Verifiability. --Amalthea^Talk 19:33, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

another noted song called "radar"

Radar is also the name of a song in Laurie Anderson's
Home of the Brave (soundtrack).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT77BzpMoEM —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yartett (talk • contribs) 15:34, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi folks,

Kinda new here.

If my somewhat uniformed opinion is to be considered (as I'm am new here),
I propose that the page, if possible, become a disambiguation page for songs with the title "Radar,"
as a title "Radar (song)" being that of Britney Spears song,
implies that her song of this name is the pre-eminent one;
and that instead,
supporters of an article of her song create a "Radar (Britney Spears song)" and put a link in the former that goes into the latter.

I've already made some comments in the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disambiguation, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Radar (song), and Radar (disambiguation).

By the way, is there some sort of listing or catagory in Wikipedia with something like "Songs that have 'Radar' as the title," or the same for other titles?

Thank you.

Yartett (talk) 19:23, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Radar (disambiguation) - eo (talk) 19:37, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Typically, per the naming conventions, an article will get the shortest qualifier available, so this article shouldn't be moved. A reader looking for "Radar" will enter it into the search box, be directed to Radar, follow the hatnote to Radar (disambiguation), and find the link to the Laurie Anderson album.
Wikipedia doesn't have multiple levels of disambiguation pages, or hatnotes at qualified articles (the "(song)" part). In this particular case, the Laurie Anderson song doesn't appear to be notable enough to warrant an additional hatnote nonetheless.
Lastly, all songs called "Radar" should be listed at the disambiguation page. If there are enough songs, they can be put into their own section (see MOS:DAB).
--Amalthea^Talk 19:53, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

On this issue, an editor in the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disambiguation wrote:

"The Spears song may not have stood the test of time, but it stood the test of Wikipedia: of all the Wikipedia editors, one of them opted to create an article for the Spears song before one of them opted to create the Anderson song."

But has it, considering that it is being considered for deletion?

I wonder if there is a generational thing going on here.

Anderson's song was made almost 2 decades before Wikipedia, and about 10 years before the Internet itself.

Britney's song is recent.

I wonder what would happen if it was switched, would there even be an article as this song might have faded in 20 years, like other Britney songs faded; or maybe we might have articles on both. I also wonder if record company hacks might have contributed to, if not created this article---I hear stories about A.I. programs in chat rooms.

If the article is to stay, and I'm certainly not opposed to the existence of an article about Britney Spear's song; and not have one on Anderson's, I can live with that, provided, there is either a D.A.B. page link on top of the Britney Radar article where one can get hipped to the existence of songs by Anderson, and this Morphine, of the same name, or more importantly, someone interested in the latter two, after going to "Radar (song)", and finding out that Britney's hogging the attention, that Wikipedia at least acknowledges that there are others, and might even inform them a little (e.g Morphine fans find out about Anderson, Anderson fans find out about Morphine, Britney fans find out about A & M, etc); especially considering that there maybe even many other songs of this name, and perhaps some yet to be made;
and I certainly don't want to hear someone say, "You mean this 'Laurie Anderson' made a song called 'Radar?' Yeah? Well Britney did it first---Wikipedia says so. (It says 'Radar (song)' not 'Radar (Britney Spears song)'.)"

Yartett (talk) 16:34, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Radar on Circus

Should we really note that the song is on both Blackout and Circus. As of right now we're not sure exactly what is up with Radar being on Circus. It's very likely that the version of the song that is on Circus will be a remix or some other version of the song, Jive Records even stated that to MTV.com. If this is the case, then a remix isn't exactly the version of the song that this article represents, thus Radar should only be listed as being on "Blackout" and maybe somewhere in the article explain that another mix of the song can be found on Circus. However, if it is in fact the normal version of Radar that is released on Circus, then it would make sense to keep the article the way it is, but as of right now we're not sure of the status of the song on Circus. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.234.15.99 (talk) 05:15, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

We know for a fact that "Radar" will appear as the thirteenth track in the standard edition of Circus. Currently, the information we have been provided suggests that this will be the same version that was included in Blackout. Until the date that further information becomes available, I think it is important to mention that "Radar" will appear in some form on the new studio album — perhaps this is due to its success in the international market. --Onewiseman (talk) 05:59, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

The version of Radar on Circus is SLIGHTLY different. It uses a different into and her vocals arent as over-produced as they are on Blackout, I went ahead and added that info on the end of the first paragraph as I think it is notable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.234.15.99 (talk) 20:32, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Maybe so, but the addition you added was your person synopsis. We need to report what reliable sources say, not our own opinion or interpretation. — Realist² 20:40, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Radar CDS

Recently uploaded/updated single artwork is official. The current one that repeatedly replaces the official is an unofficial replica made by a member of the britneyspearsblackout.com eclipse forum, rOmMeL_0411. A link to the thread containing the unofficial artwork can be found here: http://britneyspearsblackout.com/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=1430.0 I would greatly appreciate it if you would address this issue as you see fit. Thank you.

- Panasonic penguin (talk) 22:58, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

There is no official artwork and Radar was never a single, stop pushing this agenda please. — Realist² 22:59, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

I have to agree. To qualify for WP:FUR and WP:NOR it has to be the original artwork, not an "unofficial replica", because the latter fails verification policy. This image shouldn't be used at all. --Rodhullandemu 23:06, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

The single was never released, however physical releases were sent to radio stations prior to cancellation. Such stations in included international radio stations overseas such as Ireland and the country of Australia, where the single received heavy rotation on radio stations despite it's cancellation. This on it's own should confirm that a promo exists. It should also be noted that the respectable Britney Spears fansite http://OSDIA.es received an email of confirmation from a Jive records rep. after inquiring the authenticity of a "rare radar promo single" appearing on ebay. The contact address was given to the site owners via an Irish ebay store owner selling a copy of the radio promo (whom they contacted for information about the single). There is a screen shot of the interaction, found here: http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb257/OSDIA/Julio2008/osdia01-15.jpg Till then, I think it is safe to assume that, despite cancellation, a physical single was manufactured and released to radio stations prior to cancellation, and therefore the song should either contain the image to accompany it, or no longer have it's own article (since articles concerning unreleased/canceled single are often removed/deleted.)- Panasonic penguin (talk) 00:04, 12 November 2008 (UTC)Panasonic Penguin

The existence of the single itself is not disputed for the sake of this argument, it's the provenance and copyright status of the cover art. An unofficial replica doesn't satisfy WP:V because there's nothing to check it against, and if there were, that is the image that should be used. An assertion on eBay, likewise, cannot be regarded as a reliable source, because we have no way of verifying that the artwork scanned & posted there is the original and not lifted from the previously-mentioned unofficial replica. You see the problem, we have here? If someone has a copy of the single, scans the artwork and uploads it here, that would suffice. If the record company has a copy of the artwork on its own website, that would also be good enough. But it just doesn't work to say that an image which looks like the (debatably) validated eBay image is the actual artwork. Fair-use is fairly strict here, and ideally we would ask Jive to provide the image themselves, with a permission and authentication under the WP:OTRS system. Is there a reason why this cannot be done? --Rodhullandemu 00:40, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

I understand now. I misunderstood the argument as simple being "radar wasn't released, so artwork can't exist", which is not true. However, the "replica" I was speaking of was an image widely used across the internet as seen here. http://www.subirimagen.es/08/0710/199647/2num0rc.png My argument was that that image was frequently replacing the image I was uploading and using on this article that I am fairly certain is the real thing (though I have seen that a replica resembling the scans and the image I myself provided is in existence). I also don't see how it would be possible to contact Jive, as an e-mail and mailing address are not readily available for purchase. And as for the authenticity of the ebay article, I'm not necessarily saying that the single was sold, but that a Jive Representative was contacted through an Osdia.es rep. who had a contact number for the record company (presumably, this contact number was on the back of the CD on a sticker. The seller provided the Osida rep with the contact, leading to the email screen shot of her conversation with the Jive rep.) Again, take that as you will, but I would take that as grounds to say that the ebay article was official (not that that helps to validate why the article should contain a cover image). If you do happen to have a way to contact a representative of Jive Records, then I would be happy to contact the label. Panasonic penguin (talk) 01:20, 12 November 2008 (UTC)Panasonic Penguin

Well, if the Osida rep can email Jive, I'd guess so can anyone else. They confirm the existence of the single, so that's not a problem. But we can use authentic artwork under fair-use, as long as we are sure we are using the correct image. Although they may not release it for free use, they may confirm that the version you cite above is the right one. Sorry to be a pain, but the two things that can get Wikipedia into the most legal trouble are libel and breach of copyright, which is why we take such care in making sure that images are properly sourced and used. --Rodhullandemu 01:26, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

It's not a pain, this is just legal stuff.. actually they're pretty much one in the same. That's not the issue, but rather the fact that the image containing the sticker with the address used to contact Jive was blurred. Osida.es contacted the seller personally and as evidenced through the screen shot, the address is not meant to be public. I highly doubt the seller would still have the email address readily available sense the item is (presumably) no longer in his possession. I can, however, work on locating a contact. I was just asking if you or any other individual reading this might have had a contact for the record label. Panasonic Penguin (talk) 01:47, 12 November 2008 (UTC)Panasonic Penguin

Protection

This endless swapping of the cover art is disruptive, and I have protected the page for 48 hours so editors can reach consensus as to (a) which is the official record company image and is reliably sourced, or if both, (b) which to use in the article. Thanks. --Rodhullandemu 23:12, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

I agree this is really annoying and somewhat confusing. I'm not sure any of them are legitimate myself, but there you go. — Realist² 23:15, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Read the above comment giving a similar discussion. Wikipedia, due to some legal issuesm can't provide cover art for Radar since no official word exists from the record company to confirm whether one or the other is official (and neither of the one's being fought over are) due to a lack of release. In other words, Radar can't have a cover. ````Panasonic Penguin —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.153.174.40 (talk) 00:23, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Neither cover art should be used at all. Image:Britney Radar Cover.jpg is from what looks like a blog or fansite, and Image:Promo Radar Cover.jpg is apparently from a Spanish forum, and was also uploaded by a user that has countless warns against him for uploading bad images to Wikipedia (he likes to purge his talk page of these every once in awhile [4]).  AcroX  13:29, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, he's a talk page blanker, I've given him warnings myself, he's overdue a block but that's another issue for another day. I agree that both should be removed unless reliable sources are used...— Realist² 14:06, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

As far as I'm aware, an official cover was never unveiled by Jive and until somebody provides a source, I've replaced the image with "nocover". Xamkou (talk) 01:03, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Not #2 in Sweden

"Radar" was not #2 in Sweden. The peak position is #8. This is the official source: Swedishcharts.com Britney Spears - Radar ραncακemisτακe (talk) 19:58, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Cover art revisited

Enough of this nonsense. It's disruptive. I've protected this article from ANY editing for a week so that someone can come up with a valid, properly sourced, cover image. Not from a blog, not a fan reconstruction, but a properly sourced image from the record company. Nothing else will do. If you think you have a valid image and can source it properly, post a link below. Until then, verifiability and reliable sources policies prevail. Thanks. --Rodhullandemu 01:09, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

I think this was a wise move, the content of the article itself isn't changing, the majority of the editing is either to chart positions (fans inflating positions without sources) or to the image. As long as it takes to sort this mess out. — Realist² 01:14, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Good move but as far as I'm aware, a cover was never actually released due to the single being scrapped early on as Britney was already working on her new Album. Xamkou (talk) 01:28, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

it was just on the offcial promo single. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.101.243.19 (talk) 08:38, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Diffrences in between the 2 versions?

So Radar is released as a Bonus Track on Circus and as a regular on on Blackout. Are there any diffrences in between the versions? If yes, then we could notice that in the article. --It's Flo (talk) 18:07, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

We need sources that report such a difference. — Realist² 18:17, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Now

that it is confirmed to be the 4th single off circus, can we have an article rewrite, jsut so its clear whats happended with the song? thanks (90.194.164.219 (talk) 10:14, 8 May 2009 (UTC))

I updated the beginning section of the article. There's probably no need to re-do the rest, besides the critical reception section (maybe?) and chart performance. But that information will arise as the single gains airplay. Percxyz (Call me Percy, it's easier.) 10:50, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Single from Blackout or Circus...

So there seems to be a disagreance (not sure if that's a word) regarding the info box, and whether it should state, A) "Single by Britney Spears from the album Blackout and re-released on Circus", or B) "Single by Britney Spears from the album Circus".

The answer to this is simple - it should state the latter of the two (B). The key word here is Single. The info box specifically reads: "Single by Britney Spears...". Considering the fact that Radar was not a single from Blackout, but instead is the current single from Circus, the information in the info box needs to specifically state that the single is from the Circus album. Because the single was 'not' released from the Blackout album, Blackout should not be in that section. If the info box read: "Song from the Blackout and Circus album", it would be a different story. However that's not the case. It's already stated within the beginning of the article that the song is originally from the Blackout album, but single-wise, it's from Circus. Percxyz (Call me Percy, it's easier) 23:54, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Exactly, saying it was a single from Blackout is FALSE INFORMATION. It may originally be on Blackout, but as a single it is from Circus. ---Shadow (talk) 10:08, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

I understand where you're coming from, but as the single has not officially been released yet, we have no idea as to whether it's promoting Circus or both of the albums. Until it's made more clear, which album it's being used to promote, we should leave it as a single from Blackout and Circus. 75.137.124.97 (talk) 14:57, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

The song is being used to promote Circus, as confirmed by Britney's site: "BritneySpears.com can confirm that 'Radar' will be the fourth single off of Britney's platinum-selling album, 'Circus'." Promotion for Blackout is over. Once a new album is released, the artist generally focuses on that particular album, not past albums. The song itself is from the Blackout album, but it's being released as a single from Circus, therefore technically and officially promoting Circus. Percxyz (Call me Percy, it's easier) 15:56, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree. It has nothing to do with Blackout. The song shouldn't be in the Blackout infobox. Charmed36 (talk) 16:25, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

I personally think that it should also be taken as a part of Blackout because it was originally released in Blackout, not in Circus. I know it is now a single off Circus, but still it had a minor release with Blackout. It even had a rare CD single and radio airplay! It made peaks on charts due to the airplay. I agree that in the infobox we should put Circus, but in the article we have to clarify all of this! BittersweetJoJo (talk) 19:00, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

All of that is mentioned in the article, we even mention in the first sentence that it was originally on Blackout.

I disagree 100% on this article's exclusion of the fact on the infobox that it IS from the album "Blackout". This song is still a single for the "Blackout" as well as "Circus", it is a matter of cross-promotion for both albums. Also, if you are going to combat that it is a single from "Blackout" take note of this: it was released as single in other areas of the world prior to the existence of "Womanizer". Regardless of it's current release in the US, the song WAS and will remain another single for the "Blackout".Cazxiro (talk) 21:25, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

The song was a promo in other countries. It will NOW be a single worldwide. ---Shadow (talk) 03:23, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Exactly. Radar was never an official single from Blackout in any country, and promo singles don't count in this case. Percxyz (Call me Percy, it's easier) ♥ 21:22, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Must I remind you that the phrase is FROM the album not FOR the album. If it was then "Circus" should be the only one listed but because it says FROM it's actual first appearance MUST written as well. Also, if Promo singles don't count then all those promo singles in Britney's single box and counted as a single MUST be removed at once or else. Cazxiro (talk) 23:25, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

The article already mentions it is from Blackout in the first sentence, as a single it is being released from circus, simple as that. ---Shadow (talk) 00:54, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Junior Vasquez Remix/Junior's Marathon Mix

Source?Heidijo236 (talk) 10:46, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

There is no source because there is no official Junior Vasquez remix, considering the fact the single was only released as a promo with two tracks, the original and the instrumental. I just now noticed this and was wondering the same thing, so I looked for first remix; it's a 1:10 demo. Hardly official, and I couldn't even find the Marathon mix, if there is one. Removed. Percxyz (Call me Percy, it's easier) 11:15, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Radio release in June?

There isn't any source. I would guess so, but this information comes from no where. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.71.245.7 (talk) 00:20, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Well there isn't a source yet, but it's more than likely going to be released in June anyway. Although it could be released later this month. I highly doubt it's gonna be released in July or later, otherwise they wouldn't have mentioned it as the next single this early. I don't know, I don't really have any rejections with keeping June without a source for now but if another editor decides to remove 'June' and replace it with 'TBA', I'm not against that either. Percxyz (Call me Percy, it's easier) 02:00, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Song Recorded In 2006

The song was recorded in 2006...there are pics of Britney in the studio with the people who produced this song in November 2006.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.25.117.15 (talk) 11:13, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

And yet your provide NOTHING to back that up with. ---Shadow (talk) 23:02, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Divide Page

To make things simple, Radar should be cut into two, like when an artist covers a song. The top Radar (2008) from Blackout, including the single's cover. and the bottom, Radar (2009) with its own information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.113.127.95 (talk) 21:15, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't think we necessarily need to split the article in two, however that certainly isn't a bad idea either. "Single release", "Chart performance", "Track listing", "Charts" and "Release history" are all sections within the article that have (or will have, as soon as the single is officially released and active on the charts) two separate sub-sections ("2008" or "from Blackout") for the Blackout promotional release, and ("2009" or "from Circus") for the Circus release. I'm personally fine with the way the article reads at this point, however if somebody does split the article in two (and it looks good, makes for a easier and cleaner read and is generally an improvement from the way it reads now), I wouldn't be against that either.

On another note, 79.56.248.115 did a BRILLIANT thing by adding a second "Promotional single" info box for the Blackout release of Radar. I would have never thought of that. Now any dispute over what album the song was released from will be put to rest. Percxyz (Call me Percy, it's easier) 23:35, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm glad it was taken into consideration. I must say, the page look cleaner and easier to understand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.113.127.95 (talk) 04:07, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

It's the same song with no changes. It should be one article no matter what. Charmed36 (talk) 04:20, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Second infobox

In case you are editing this article and wonder why you see the text that makes up the second info box placed in between the text that makes up Single release/2008 and Structure and lyrics, this is meant to be so for a reason. For Firefox users, when the text of the second info box is placed under the text of the first info box, it misplaces the "[edit]" buttons within the "Single release", "2008" and "Structure and lyrics" sections, placing all three buttons in the "Structure and lyrics" section of the page in a row (example: [edit] [edit] [edit]). This issue is fixed when the text from the second info box is placed as is right now. This makes for easier access when editing certain sections rather than the full page, and generally is more aesthetically pleasing for Firefox users with editing privileges. Please don't edit this in any way, unless you're able to fix this problem altogether. Thank You. Percxyz (Call me Percy, it's easier) 01:01, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
No longer valid as second info box no longer exists. 13:50, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Second Infobox... Yes or No?

Now there's been some disagreeance (not sure if that's a word) regarding a second info box on this article. My opinion on this is that I think a second "Promotional single" info box is necessary to the article, as there's been a lot of dispute as to what album this song is released as a single from (see here).

a) The Blackout release of Radar was a "Promo single" release, and was not an official single from the Blackout album.

b) The Circus release of Radar IS an official single release from the Circus album.

With two info boxes for this article, the first stating the current official 4th single from Circus, and the second stating the 2008 Promo single from Blackout, this solves any dispute regarding the first and second release of this song, and what albums the first and second release of this song is released from. Without a second "promo single" info box, the issue over whether Radar was officially released from Blackout or Circus will once again arise, and will become a long lasting problem for the article. This especially will make for a detrimental situation once editors start adding 'Blackout' to the info box again, only to have their edit reverted by somebody else who believes Radar was not released from Blackout, and so on and so forth, making for an ongoing edit war that is not good at all for the article.

Overall, with two info boxes for this article, one for each release of this single, it clears up this matter altogether and makes things easier for all editors involved. I myself see no reason to not include this. Percxyz (Call me Percy, it's easier) 15:20, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

look at this articles: The Kill, Poison Prince...are articles from singles that were released the first time and then re-released. as you can see they only have one template...I don't know why this page should be different --♫Smanu! 10:24, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

I absolutely 100% taking back my previous reply (see here) regarding this issue. Now that I've thought about it some more, along with the fact that somebody (ONCE AGAIN) added "Blackout" to the single info box, I'm once again for the second Promotional single info box. Smanu, you may not understand why a second info box is needed, but I've fully explained (and fully explaining AGAIN) as to why it IS needed under this circumstance. We CANNOT continue this edit war regarding what album this single is released from! Now as I already mentioned in my previous comment within this section, your examples (The Kill, Poison Prince) do not relate to this situation, as both those songs are released from the "same" album, whether the albums they're from were 're-released' or not. Radar was released from 2 DIFFERENT albums (Blackout and Circus) and the song was released as two different types of singles from each album; the release from Blackout as a PROMO SINGLE, and the release from Circus an OFFICIAL SINGLE. Having this song listed as being released as a single from Blackout is inaccurate, as the release from Blackout was NOT a single, but rather, a PROMO single, and that's what the Promotional single info box is for. Now as I see it, there is absolutely nothing that goes against any terms of Wikipedia when it comes to adding a second info box to a singles article under this circumstance. With a second info box clarifying the Blackout release of Radar as a PROMO SINGLE, it solves this issue completely. Can you, Smanu, find a better way to end this ongoing edit war regarding this situation? Percxyz (Call me Percy, it's easier) 20:12, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Honestly, I really don't care either way. The yellow single box needs to only say Circus, and that is all I really care about. ---Shadow (talk) 01:39, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

A second infobox is very unnecessary. It's an official single from Circus. It needs to mention in the article that the song was a promo from Blackout. That's all. Charmed36 (talk) 17:08, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't like when people take something out of nowhere and write it on the "Radar" page

First the invented radio release in June, then this stupid Kill The Lights story? Erase that, there's no source. Britney fans are mostly happy with Radar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.68.213.20 (talk) 00:37, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

The "Kill The Lights" single in question is actually not a single at all, it's just a fan video that's gonna be released or something. And there's certainly no existence of a "Fan Single" in the first place, as somebody added to the article a while ago. My advice to you, and any other unregistered IP, is if you see something questionable or something you know isn't correct and unsourced in an article, to simply remove it. You don't have to be registered to contribute to Wikipedia, unless the article in question is protected (in which this case, it isn't.) Percxyz (Call me Percy, it's easier) 13:45, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Release dates

Digital spy (a reliable source) states it will be released July 27th in the UK (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/singlesreviews/), which fits in with what Sony BMG Switzerland have previously said (http://britneyspearsspy.blogspot.com/2009/06/radar-single-release-dates.html) UKWiki (talk) 22:37, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Can I say that if it is to be released in the UK on the 27th of July, then surely it's going to be CD and Digital Download, because if a song is only released by Digital Download, it's usually released on a Sunday, but the 27th July is a monday, could someone find any sources that state whether it will be just digital download, or both, please! Jonni_Boi (Talk) 11:36, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Except it's already widely avaliable for download through the Circus or Blackout albums. Most tracks like this are released on CD and download the same day.UKWiki (talk) 19:15, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

UK Release Date

It says on the article that in the UK it is released on 10th August by CD Single, but there is no sign of it in HMV or on the website, so it might be just on Download at the moment, it may be released by CD Single at some point but it's definitely not 10th August! Jonni_Boi (Talk) 11:23, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Radar

Quote: "Even though the song has been performing well on the charts, it has not achieved the same success of the other Circus singles, due to the fact the song has been charting for almost two years. The song is considered a minor hit for Spears." I think we should wait a little bit longer to make conclusions like that. It could still go higher on the charts, especially on the Hot 100 because in the USA airplay is going up. And because it's the fourth single, radios take their time to add it. It's not because it's a Britney song that it must systematically have an explosive debut all around the world.

If you want my opinion, I think the reason why it's becoming a flop is the lack of enthusiasm of fans. They threw Womanizer, Circus and If U Seek Amy pretty high on the charts because they were excited by those songs. It was fresh new material. Radar has been around for two years. When we saw Radar on the tracklist for Circus, we were like: "What the?". When we learned it was the fourth single, we were again like: "What the?". Finally, when we saw the music video, we were disappointed because two years apparently weren't enough for Britney to find a more exciting concept (a critic agrees with me).

So, you should say "it is not achieving the same success of the other Circus singles, due to the fact the song has been charting for almost two years. Also, the lack of enthousiasm of the fans, who didn't expect an old song to be chosen as the fourth single of the album, had a negative effect on airplay". Or something like that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.156.141.190 (talk) 19:02, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

German Charts

So Radar didn't charted on the official German charts yet?? PlatinumFire (talk) 14:19, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

No, it has not as of yet. It most likely will after the physical release if it has one in that country. Jayy008 (talk) 13:38, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Lock this page

This page is constantly edited by people who add things that are not allowed or delete things that are. Jayy008 (talk) 13:38, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Bad Girl the next single?

Under Britney's single chronology it lists a song called Bad Girl as the next single. THere is no good source for that! It's reference says in the title UNCONFIRMED track. I'm deleting it, don't put it back. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.81.117.155 (talk) 21:50, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Itunes

iTunes Digital EP

  1. "Radar" — 3:48
  2. "Radar" (Bloodshy & Avant Remix) — 5:44
  3. "Radar" (Manhattan Clique UHF Remix) — 5:53
  4. "Radar" (Tonal Club Remix) — 4:56
  5. "Radar" (Tonal Radio Remix) — 4:00

wicho iTunes store? i can't find radar EP on american iTunes store. any source? --SveroH (talk) 18:28, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

3 Love

I looked at the ref, and where it states the song name seems edited. Plus it doesn't say its going to be an actual single. I'm going to remove it.

Unusual You

Shouldn't Unusual You be put as the next single?