Talk:Racine, Wisconsin
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This section is ... well ... wrong. Wind Point Light is not in the city of Racine, it's in Wind Point. A few of the places listed aren't buildings (the zoo, Horlick Field). The second half of the list consists of companies; again, not buildings. This section should be cleaned up and re-named, or removed and have its relevant info dispersed elsewhere. Anyone else feel the same way? Daniel J Simanek (talk) 23:21, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Agreed, remove Wind Point Light Hose. That is outside the municipal boundaries of the city. It is within Racine County. --216.15.11.104 (talk) 00:55, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
Racine crime rates
[edit]A single statement comparing Racine to all other "communities" in Wisconsin is misleading. It requires some context to be informative, and there is ambiguity in using the term community, rather than cities or villages, which are clearly defined. Most of those communities represent rural or small town Wisconsin, with significantly different demographics from an urban area. Providing the reader with the number of cities and villages and clarifying Racine's size relative to other cities in the state, all properly cited, gives the reader more information to draw their own conclusions, without advancing any agenda. ArtRoot (talk) 05:57, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
- This is utter nonsense. A rate expresses perfectly the relationship between the number of crimes and the population. You don't need to beat the reader over the head with a digression about the number of municipalities in the state. It's already stated in the lede that Racine is the fifth largest community in the state. The paragraph now reads like a moronic middle school term paper. If you don't like Racine's crime rate, then leave it out of the article. It's tendentious editing any way you look at it. 70.235.85.36 (talk) 06:42, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
- The number of communities has nothing to do with the population. If you have 99 communities with a population of 1, and 1 community with a population of 100,000, and the community with 100,000 has a higher crime rate, what does the ratio of number of communities tell you? It's not that extreme, but in a state like Wisconsin it is tending more in that direction, with so many small villages and cities. ArtRoot (talk) 06:53, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
- It's always hard to know how to respond to non sequiturs. 70.235.87.246 (talk) 13:32, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
- I think ArtRoot is complining that "Racine has a higher crime rate than 96% of Wisconsin" is not very informative to the reader, as we have established that Racine has more people than most places in Wisconsin, and larger cities tend to have larger crime rates[1]. ArtRoot is asking for a more useful crime rate comparison (e.g. compare Racine to other similarly sized cities in Wisconsin) Limpice (talk) 14:53, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
- It's always hard to know how to respond to non sequiturs. 70.235.87.246 (talk) 13:32, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
- I should also say that I don't particularly like the way it reads now either. My original thought was just to delete the statement, as it is incomplete/misleading. But I wanted to respect the original contributor, and the fact itself is correct, it just mixes up a rate with a number that would imply population, when that isn't the case. It is true that the crime rate in Racine is higher than most of the rest of Wisconsin, and it is also true that the rate has declined significantly and is the lowest it has been in decades. I was not able to find a good reference comparing Racine with other cities of similar size/demographics. Do you have a suggestion on how to restructure this section so it reflects the facts without distortion?ArtRoot (talk) 07:17, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
- Already done, but you reverted. 70.235.87.246 (talk) 13:32, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
- The number of communities has nothing to do with the population. If you have 99 communities with a population of 1, and 1 community with a population of 100,000, and the community with 100,000 has a higher crime rate, what does the ratio of number of communities tell you? It's not that extreme, but in a state like Wisconsin it is tending more in that direction, with so many small villages and cities. ArtRoot (talk) 06:53, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
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Prom
[edit]I propose the following addition to the prom section of this article - The city is known for its large prom celebration, at which students from all the high schools in the city participate in an after prom party. This was featured on the radio show This American Life in Episode #186 "Prom", which originally aired on June 8, 2001; Racine's prom tradition was also the subject of the 2006 documentary The World's Best Prom. In addition to the large prom, the city has also been hosting a special needs prom called A Night To Remember every year since 2013. The A Night To Remember prom always takes place on the Sunday following Racine's larger prom and includes those from age 13 to 30. --Nataliamariee (talk) 00:01, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
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