Talk:Rabia sign/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Jaguar (talk · contribs) 21:37, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Should have this to you within a couple of days. I mainly focus on copyediting issues. Thanks, ☠ Jaguar ☠ 21:37, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors:

   B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. Has an appropriate reference section:

   B. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:

   C. No original research:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   B. Focused:

4. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

5. Is it stable?

   No edit wars, etc:

6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?

   A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:

   B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

Initial comments

• I'm afraid that the lead appears somewhat disorganised and out of place - typically with an article this size it should have three main paragraphs, with each paragraph almost the same size. The sentence "The gesture is made by raising four fingers of any hand and folding the thumb" could easily be merged with a paragraph above and the last sentence "Egyptian and non-Egyptian politicians are regularly seen making Rabia gesture" could be clarified into another paragraph. Also, who are the non-Egyptian politicians that use this gesture? I don't see MPs in London using this gesture for example!
• Per WP:LEADCITE, citations in the lead are generally discouraged if it's not referencing controversial information
• "The stylized word 'R4BIA' is sometimes interpreted as an acronym" - what is the acronym?
• "They also denounce linking it with terrorism" - who is 'they'?
• In a recent report, Human Rights Watch said at least 1,150 demonstrators were killed" - when was the report? If I recall the demonstration was in 2011?
• The "Appearance of the sign" section has a few problems: the "Name" section should be converted to prose as should the "As an acronym" subsection. Also the Gesture and Graphical description sections are very short, could they be merged or expanded to improve the flow of the article?
• Graphical description section entirely unreferenced
• "Egyptian Al Ahly footballer Ahmed Abd El-Zaher" - should just read to Egyptian footballer Ahmed Abd El-Zaher
• Media section unreferenced
• Should the World Rabia Day contain a quote template?
• Opposing parody section very short, but be expanded if it wants to retain its level 2 header

On hold

There are some concerns here that definitely need addressing if this were to meet the GA criteria and at the moment I'm afraid it does not. I'll put this on hold for the standard seven days and if they have all been addressed I'll take another look. Let me know if you have any questions, thanks ☠ Jaguar ☠ 21:59, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Close - not listed

I am sorry to say that at this time Rabia sign does not meet the GA criteria. The time has expired and seeing as the main contributors are inactive, I guess that the safe thing to do is to close this GAN for now. Feel free to renominate once everything is addressed ☯ Jaguar ☯ 21:37, 4 January 2015 (UTC)