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'US Customary Units'

niet 1 niet 2 niet 3 maar 3 Counter Pounters ja drieeeeeI have changed the wording to Imperial units as this is the familiar term for most people in the world. A quarter pounder is a common term for a large burger in the UK and other countries that use imperial units such as the US. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.96.14.189 (talk) 10:25, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Royal with cheese" in Germany

The sentence The "Royale with Cheese", as famously explained in the film Pulp Fiction, is not, in fact, a name for the Quarter Pounder with Cheese anywhere. is incorrect, since the QP is called "Royal mit Käse" (literally "Royal with cheese") in Germany (cf. http://www.mcdonalds.de/produkte/produkt-profil?productName=hamburger_royal_mit_kase and even under his english name in this variation: http://www.mcdonalds.de/produkte/produkt-profil?productName=royal_cheese_double ). --82.83.49.181 (talk) 07:39, 19 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Sodium Daily Requirements

Wikipedia's default for Food Nutrition infoboxes seems to declare 1500 mg for Sodium yet the McDonald's site shows 2200 mg. Growing up I am used to 2200 mg. Who decided 1500 mg for Wiki's default? Warshington (talk) 03:40, 22 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Russia

The name in Russian is Гранд Чи́збургер. Should be added before the English translation — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.15.222.66 (talk) 00:40, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In Russia it's now called никак

Since Macdonald's left Russia it's now called никак. 73.241.150.190 (talk) 00:56, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

June 2022

Since they upped the size to 120 g in 2015, they need to change the name to the 120 grammer. Ametrica (talk) 12:35, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Amendment to Quarter Pounder Page

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93.89.138.65 (talk) 12:00, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

We request the deletion of the sentence "Quarter Pounder" is a trademark in the United States, but restaurants in other countries have been able to use similar names for their own products, such as the British Wimpy chain's "Quarterpounder."[16]. This is because Quarter Pounder is a trade mark in various territories such as the UK, and British Wimpy has not been authorised to use Quarter Pounder.

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Pizzaplayer219^Talk_Contribs 14:14, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please see here for extracts of trade mark registrations for Quarter Pounder outside the US:[1]https://trademarks.ipo.gov.uk/ipo-tmcase/page/Results/1/UK00003342310

and

[2]https://trademarks.ipo.gov.uk/ipo-tmcase/page/Results/1/UK00900878611.

This illustrates that the sentence currently visible on the Quarter Pounder Wikipedia page is factually incorrect. Additionally, if Wimpy were authorised to use the Quarter Pounder trade mark, they would need to state that this use is under license. However, no where in British Wimpy's use does it state that it is using the Quarter Pounder trade mark under license, again showing that McDonald's has not authorised such use, and the sentence on Wikipedia is again factually incorrect. StobbsOBE (talk) 14:13, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We provided the requested reliable resources a month ago that support the change we requested and would be grateful if you can confirm when this change will be made? StobbsOBE (talk) 15:41, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We provided the requested reliable resources now 2 months that support the change we requested and would be grateful if you can confirm when this change will be made? StobbsOBE (talk) 12:08, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Quarter Pounder is widely protected as a trade mark outside of the United States. McDonald's owns 89 active trademark registrations worldwide across 61 countries. Please see the attached report from the public trade mark registers. [2]https://www.tmdn.org/tmview/welcome#/tmview/results?page=1&pageSize=30&criteria=C&basicSearch=quarter%20pounder&tmStatus=Filed,Registered — Preceding unsigned comment added by IntangibleAssetEnthusiast (talk • contribs) 17:01, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unable to review. The given URL was not accessible. Regards, Spintendo 03:49, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[3]https://www.tmdn.org/tmview/#/tmview/bookmark?s=2d00ccl98eiocq59mo3o16et9v

Please see here a new URL link for you to review. Sorry the other one didn't work.

Just to reiterate, please delete: "Quarter Pounder" is a trademark in the United States, but restaurants in other countries have been able to use similar names for their own products, such as the British Wimpy chain's "Quarterpounder."

This is factually incorrect as no other restaurants have been permitted to use Quarter Pounder; any use by British Wimpy is unauthorised. Quarter Pounder is not just registered in the US, it's very widely registered, in 61 countries, so the statement "Quarter Pounder" is a trademark in the United States" is also misleading to readers as they may think it is only a US mark.

Thank you IntangibleAssetEnthusiast (talk) 11:21, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for providing the updated URL, it's much appreciated. It looks as if the Wimpy quarter pounder has been trademarked in the past, and that McDonald's UK trademark has been active since 2018. The claim in the article is that restaurants in other countries have been able to use similar names for their own products, such as the British Wimpy chain's Quarterpounder. As the language in that claim uses the phrase have been, and because companies like Wimpy's have been able to use this trademark (again, according to your source, in the past — although apparently this is no longer the case^[a]) I don't see that the claim can technically be called 'factually incorrect'.^[b] Perhaps the claim could be updated to state that "as of 2018, the UK trademark belongs to so and so" for example, that might work? Please let me know your thoughts on this.

Notes

^ Although the trademark appears to have lapsed, the company still produces a product called the 'Quarter Pounder'.
^ The claim is not that they "are able to use" this trademark, but that they "have been able to use", which is an important distinction, because that phrase also denotes a past ability.

Regards, Spintendo 21:52, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Spintendo.

I have searched the trade mark register but cannot see that Wimpy has ever owned a trade mark (dead or alive) for quarter pounder so I am unclear why you think quarter pounder has been trademarked in the past by Wimpy. Please can you provide me with the record you have of such trade mark so I can review it?

I am grateful for your consideration of amending the entry and once I have received the record from you, I will revert with my thoughts on the proposed amendment.

Many thanks and festive wishes. IntangibleAssetEnthusiast (talk) 12:00, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@IntangibleAssetEnthusiast: Thank you for your reply. The link for the entry at the European Union Intellectual Property Network is here. That reference is to a trademark in New Zealand; that country's intellectual property page on the trademark can be found at this link under trademark number 130130. It looks like it was first trademarked in 1979, but is no longer active (abandoned in 1985, according to NZ's website). Regards, Spintendo 00:43, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We have reviewed this historic abandoned New Zealand mark. Bearing in mind that McDonald’s first opened in New Zealand in 1976, and that its Quarter Pounder burger was a core menu item, this mark filed 3 years later in October 1979 by Wimpy was most likely (but it’s difficult to verify with certainty owing to the period of time that has elapsed) abandoned because of action taken by McDonald’s. McDonald’s has owned the QUARTER POUNDER registrations in New Zealand since 4 December 1980. Wimpy has never owned the QUARTER POUNDER trade mark in the UK or anywhere else, nor has it been permitted to use it by McDonald’s, who own the registrations in 62 countries worldwide. So, we remain of the view that it is misleading to state that “restaurants in other countries have been able to use similar names for their own products, such as the British Wimpy chain's Quarterpounder” because their mark was in one territory only, dating back over 20 years, and was abandoned/cancelled, most likely because they were not able to keep it owing to McDonald’s prior use and rights. McDonald’s are and have been the registered owner of Quarter Pounder in New Zealand for 24 years, as well as elsewhere across the globe.

Further, if this sentence were deleted as we have requested, the remaining paragraph under the sub-heading Other fractional-pound hamburgers will read more accurately, as it focuses on other fractions, as the sub-heading indicates. IntangibleAssetEnthusiast (talk) 16:55, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Spintendo I haven't heard back from you since 12 January. Please can you review my response and revert this week? Thanks so much IntangibleAssetEnthusiast (talk) 15:27, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 2 May 2023

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. A consensus could not be reached.

Please change ""Quarter Pounder" is a trademark in the United States, but restaurants in other countries have been able to use similar names for their own products, such as the British Wimpy chain's "Quarterpounder". rendered as one whole word.[16]"

To ""Quarter Pounder" is a trademark in the United States, and various other countries worldwide."

Since use by anyone other than McDonald's has not been authorized and the mark is registered widely outside of the United States. StobbsOBE (talk) 15:38, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. DreamRimmer (talk) 17:39, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please see above the reliable sources were already provided on 4 April StobbsOBE (talk) 19:26, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please see here for extracts of trade mark registrations for Quarter Pounder outside the US:[1]https://trademarks.ipo.gov.uk/ipo-tmcase/page/Results/1/UK00003342310 StobbsOBE (talk) 19:27, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

and

[2]https://trademarks.ipo.gov.uk/ipo-tmcase/page/Results/1/UK00900878611.

This illustrates that the sentence currently visible on the Quarter Pounder Wikipedia page is factually incorrect. Additionally, if Wimpy were authorised to use the Quarter Pounder trade mark, they would need to state that this use is under license. However, no where in British Wimpy's use does it state that it is using the Quarter Pounder trade mark under license, again showing that McDonald's has not authorised such use, and the sentence on Wikipedia is again factually incorrect. StobbsOBE (talk) 14:13, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We provided the requested reliable resources now 2 months that support the change we requested and would be grateful if you can confirm when this change will be made? StobbsOBE (talk) 12:09, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Quarter Pounder is widely protected as a trade mark outside of the United States. McDonald's owns 89 active trademark registrations worldwide across 61 countries. Please see the attached report from the public trade mark registers. [2]https://www.tmdn.org/tmview/welcome#/tmview/results?page=1&pageSize=30&criteria=C&basicSearch=quarter%20pounder&tmStatus=Filed,Registered — Preceding unsigned comment added by IntangibleAssetEnthusiast (talk • contribs) 16:57, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unable to review. The given URL was not accessible. Regards, Spintendo 03:49, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[3]https://www.tmdn.org/tmview/#/tmview/bookmark?s=2d00ccl98eiocq59mo3o16et9v

Please see here a new URL link for you to review. Sorry the other one didn't work.

Just to reiterate, please delete: "Quarter Pounder" is a trademark in the United States, but restaurants in other countries have been able to use similar names for their own products, such as the British Wimpy chain's "Quarterpounder."

This is factually incorrect as no other restaurants have been permitted to use Quarter Pounder; any use by British Wimpy is unauthorised. Quarter Pounder is not just registered in the US, it's very widely registered, in 61 countries, so the statement "Quarter Pounder" is a trademark in the United States" is also misleading to readers as they may think it is only a US mark.

Thank you

IntangibleAssetEnthusiast (talk) 10:50, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@User:IntangibleAssetEnthusiast Somehow this discussion got spread into two separate threads. Please see my reply on this subject in the thread above this one. Regards, Spintendo 21:56, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Spintendo, please can you reply to my last message on the Quarter Pounder thread above dated 12 January? Many thanks IntangibleAssetEnthusiast (talk) 12:10, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Spintendo I haven't heard back from you since 12 January. Please can you review my response in the Amendment to Quarter Pounder Page section above and revert this week? Thanks so much IntangibleAssetEnthusiast (talk) 15:28, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Grammatical Error

"The burger comprises a beef patty weighing 4.25 oz (120 g) before cooking[12] and 3 oz. prepared, pickles, raw onion, ketchup, and mustard."

The sentence could end naturally after "prepared". If a list of condiments is included, there needs to be a conjunction like "with". Also, it's not clear if "prepared" is intended as a synonym for cooked, in which case I suggest "3 oz. prepared with pickles...". If not, then "cooked" should be added for clarity (i.e. "3oz. cooked, prepared with [list of condiments]".

Poemisaglock (talk) 01:27, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No sold in Hong Kong.

For many years now, you can't get a quarter pounder in Hong Kong. It was replaced with the Angus . 61.15.85.96 (talk) 21:29, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Quarter Pounder vs Quarter Pounder With Cheese

For many years after its introduction, the Quarter Pounder in the US did not include cheese. A second product, the Quarter Pounder With Cheese, was added as a distinct product at a higher price. If you ordered a Quarter Pounder, you did not get cheese. Some time later that changed, and now if you order a Quarter Pounder you automatically get cheese. If you don't want cheese, you have to request a modified Quarter Pounder without cheese. The article doesn't mention that rather significant sequence of events. 38.49.72.17 (talk) 18:45, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Although the trademark appears to have lapsed, the company still produces a product called the 'Quarter Pounder'.

[2] The claim is not that they "are able to use" this trademark, but that they "have been able to use", which is an important distinction, because that phrase also denotes a past ability.

[a]

[b]