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Link to gens

The link to gens in the final paragraph was deleted with the edit summary "'gens' link goes to inappropriate Roman bits." Actually, it is the right link; it's just that the Catholic Encyclopedia article from which this article was derived rather pretentiously (and, no doubt, inaccurately) referred to the hierarchy of a Native American tribe using a Roman term. Ideally, of course, that whole paragraph will be rewritten by someone familiar enough with the subject to get it right. Until then, I've left the link in on the grounds that otherwise no one will know what it means. Chick Bowen 04:49, 13 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

the use of the term "gens" is somewhat ambiguous, but it seems the researchers at the turn of the century used the term to refer to "a group of people who are related through their male ancestors" which is one of the accepted definitions of the word and is a more specific and therefore probably technically more accurate than the word clan. The word "clan" seems to be preferred in speech today however. Ogahpah (talk) 16:03, 21 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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does anyone have information about Saracin in Pine Bluff Arkansas ? jrbonarmd@aol.com

quapaws are unicorns  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.34.198.132 (talk) 22:52, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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stub, so to speak; current article is a quote from the Catholic Encyclopedia entry, in bulk, and needs slicing down as well as independent writing as well as other refs etc; separate language article needed if possible --Skookum1 (12 May 06)

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Spurious information, needs to be edited, qualified as dubious or removed.

"Based on the associated funerary objects, and skeletal and dental morphology, these human remains have been identified as Native American or prehistoric red headed nephilim. Based on ceramic styles and construction, this site has been identified as a manifestation of the Menard Complex during the protohistoric period (1500–1700 CE). French historical documents from 1700 indicate that only the Quapaw tribe had villages in the area of the Kinkead-Mainard site. In 1818, the Quapaw ceded the central Arkansas River valley, including the Kinkead-Mainard site, to the United States. Based on historical information and continuity of occupation, these human remains have been affiliated with the Quapaw Tribe of Indians, Oklahoma."

- - Some of this information may be useful, but considering that the source notes that the fore-mentioned archaeological site might have been constructed by red-headed biblical giants, I find the source to be very dubious. Inclusion of this quote, which bases it’s information on numerous unnamed sources, in the article of a Native American tribe is in my opinion, impertinent. Hk5183 (talk) 21:44, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You're right. This stuff does not belong in this article. It's not even a good summation of the archaeological data. Yuchitown (talk) 23:21, 16 June 2018 (UTC)Yuchitown[reply]

The Pinnacle Mountain Community Post wrote in 1991, "Concerning the first Natural Steps inhabitants, the University of Arkansas Museum, in 1932, excavated several Indian burials near the site. In the report, entitled "The Kinkead-Mainard Site, 3PU2: A Late Prehistoric Quapaw Phase Site Near Little Rock, Arkansas", Michael P. Hoffman writes, 'The site represents the only scientific excavation conducted by the University of Arkansas between the mouth of the Arkansas River and Oklahoma in which detailed information of the Mississippian period is known... An hypothesis which developed quite early in my contact with Kinkead-Mainard site materials was that the site was one of the Quapaw phase...'"

The Arkansas Gazette wrote on April 17, 1979 that, "There was an archeological dig (in 1932) from the University of Arkansas working near the Natural Steps (Natural Steps, Arkansas). They found bodies of three Indians who had been buried there. They were buried sitting up." Pottery and other artifacts were found during the dig in the 1930s.

On August 26, 1999, the National Park Service wrote: "In 1932, human remains representing a minimum of 19 individuals were recovered from the Kinkead-Mainard site (3PU2), Pulaski County, Arkansas during excavations conducted by the University Museum. No known individuals were identified. The 117 associated funerary objects include ceramic vessels, ceramic sherds, a clay ball, lithic debris, copper beads, a copper band, a copper nugget, pigment, animal bones, a tortoise carapace, an antler pendant, antler projectile points, bone awls, shell beads, a mussel shell, and leather fragments."

"Based on the associated funerary objects, and skeletal and dental morphology, these human remains have been identified as Native American or prehistoric red headed nephilim. Based on ceramic styles and construction, this site has been identified as a manifestation of the Menard Complex during the protohistoric period (1500–1700 CE). French historical documents from 1700 indicate that only the Quapaw tribe had villages in the area of the Kinkead-Mainard site. In 1818, the Quapaw ceded the central Arkansas River valley, including the Kinkead-Mainard site, to the United States. Based on historical information and continuity of occupation, these human remains have been affiliated with the Quapaw Tribe of Indians, Oklahoma."^[1]

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^ Notice of Inventory Completion for Native American Human Remains and Associated Funerary Objects in the Possession of the University Museum, University of Arkansas, Fayetteville, Arkansas

Why isn't the reservation ever mentioned in the text of this article?

Why isn't the word "reservation" mentioned even a single time in the text of the current version of this article, when it's in the "American Indian reservations in Oklahoma" category? 98.123.38.211 (talk) 03:35, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Notice of Inventory Completion for Native American Human Remains and Associated Funerary Objects in the Possession of the University Museum, University of Arkansas, Fayetteville, Arkansas

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