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Population

The Library of Congress Country Studies estimated the total Turkic-speaking population of Fars to be about 500,000 in 1986.

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/irtoc.html

Ethnologue is not a reliable source. See Discussions on Talk:Ethnologue and Talk:Azerbaijani people pages.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Azerbaijani_people#Is_Ethnologue_a_reliable_source.3F

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ethnologue

Kiumars 18:32, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ostan-e Fars has a population of 4 385 869 (2005)

Qashqais also live in Esfahan province in large numbers. They are also in 4mahal B. and BA Kuhgaluye and Khuzestan. Their numbers in Fars is enormous. Their nomads and villagers are all across Fars from Abade to Firuz Abad, plus you should take into consideration that a rather large number of Shirazis are of Qashqai origins. All taken into account a number of 1.5 or 2 million Qashqais all over Iran is very plausible.Babakexorramdin 22:01, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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okay i dont know who the ignorant arse is here that keeps deleting my comments how did you get 2 million qashqais? they only make 50 to 100 thousand. the whole pars province is only 3 million please give me some links.

also majority of Qahqais about 90% speak farsi as their first language. i will give you the link to this. stop acting like a kid.

many of them married with shirazis to. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pahlivimazandaranpars (talk • contribs)

Your comments were reverted because you were disruptivly changing the talk page, either by blanking or by making personal attacks. The population is referenced by an external link, and your other claim is dubious without a citation (especially when you are trying to contradict an existing reference.) --Sigma 7 11:02, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

qashqai people are over 3 milion how do you say 100 thousands. Just firoozabad has over 300 thousand. They also havw one third of bakhtiari province. Also they live in isfahan province, khuzestan. Irani2024 (talk) 18:05, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Qashqai peoples first language is turkish persian is the second language for them Irani2024 (talk) 18:07, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"related groups" info removed from infobox

For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all {{Infobox Ethnic group}} infoboxes. Comments may be left here. Ling.Nut 23:01, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Women´s clothes

Under the Iranian law all women must follow the strict dress code, the women from this tribe show their hair and wear very colorful clothes, what thinks the Islamic republic of Iran about them????

The dress code is not as rigid as some people in the west think. In addition they take it more easy on the Nomadic and Rural people. In the cities they might put some pressure from time to time but traditional cloths on the country side are generally percieved as Ok. Also it differs from region to region. Cities such as Qom, Tabriz, Ardabil. Yazd, kerman are conservative. But the Rural Caspian, nomadic area, Shiraz, and Northern tehran are more liberal in this regard.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 09:54, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article must have qashqai woman photo Irani2024 (talk) 17:57, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Iranian nationalists try to show qashqai woman wearing sth else while we have cloth so unique and known to every body. They try to call it lurs wearing. Wikipedia must take its responsibility over subjects like this. Irani2024 (talk) 18:01, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WARNING! This article has been subject to serious vandalism

User:Babakexorramdin has made up a false quote and attributed it to the Encyclopædia Iranica and ID:217.219.131.163 has changed quotes that were already there (to give just one example, changing "Persian Gulf" to "Arab Gulf"). This is serious vandalism and goes totally against Wikipedia policy. I have corrected these changes but, please, will others also keep a close watch to make sure there is no further vandalism. If so, we may have to call upon the Administrators to take action. Sincerely, John Hill (talk) 01:14, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Calm down. The anonymous user was the one who changed Persia with Iran. I did not have time to revert all his changes. Earlier on I had made some editions to this article. The reason was it was premature to speak of the Kashkuli tribe out of blue, when one is still introducing the whole Qashqai ethnic group in general. I indeed do not agree with the things written in Enc. Iranica. But still I quoted lierary from enc. Iranica. I hope next time you are more respectful and see the edit histoy before blaming others.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 09:12, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

BTW I DEMAND THAT YOU APPOLOGIZE ON THAT TALKPAGE FOR YOUR ACCUSATION!--Babakexorramdin (talk) 09:15, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Since you put a comment on my talk page withouth appology!

I find your discourse very arrogant. For your nfo the quote was not mine. It was there. I only changed the into. and removed the Kashkuli part leaving the rest of the quote intact. In addition I do remember I checked it with Iranica and that was Ok. I might have forgotten to put a link or something I do not remember but what I did is not what you are accusing me of, for example changing Persian Gulf to A... Gulf has had nothing to do with me. Anyone who knows my edits sees that that was unimaginble..--Babakexorramdin (talk) 11:36, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

APOLOGY TO Babakexorramdin

I apologise to Babakexorramdin for the accusation I made against him of misrepresenting a quote. It is clear now that he just gave the wrong reference (the one I checked) and he has now corrected it.

In other words he made the simple mistake of giving this reference [1] for [2] and I did not, as the Wikipedia advises, "assume good faith" and accused him ujustly. I guess because of some of misleading changes by another user at about the same time I was upset about this site being misused - which it was - but NOT by Babakexorramdin who seems to have just made an honest mistake, which is now corrected.

I unreservedly apologise and am very sorry for the misrepresentation and any other hurt I have caused. Sincerely yours, John Hill (talk) 12:35, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

thank you very much. It shows your class John. I am also sorry that I reacted bitterly. --Babakexorramdin (talk) 01:51, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And thank you so much for your kind note. I look forward to working with you to help make this article on the Qashqai and others where we have a common interest more accurate and informative for all. I send you my very warmest wishes, John Hill (talk) 03:01, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

image of GHASHGHALO man is put mistakingly

the photo put here as a ghashghaie man is not a ghashghaie, he is obviously a BAKHTYARI persian, both by his looks and his cloth which is the traditional clothing of LORs and BAKHTYARI people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.80.146.200 (talk) 21:36, 22 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Flag Qashqais

hi where is Flag Qashqais sourse? it is not true-they have not ever Flag --Roohiran (talk) 06:38, 4 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Qashqai prople have a known flag named as baydaq its not the same as country flag but it belong to turkic groups Irani2024 (talk) 17:58, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Infobox related ethnic groups

It is clearly stated in this source:^[1]; that the Qashqai are mainly Turkic, and in accordance with that the infobox was fixed. Can you explain why you keep reverting that without reason? Akocsg (talk) 13:40, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

the source says:"Like most present-day tribal confederacies in Persia, the Il-e Qašqāʾi is a conglomeration of clans of different ethnic origins, Lori, Kurdish, Arab and Turkic. But most of the Qašqāʾi are of Turkic origin, and almost all of them speak a Western Ghuz Turkic dialect which they call Turki." there is no "to a lesser extent" in source so you can't add it to infobox. it's just your made-up term which has nothing to do with source.94.177.75.219 (talk) 13:47, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"But most of the Qašqāʾi are of Turkic origin, and almost all of them speak a Western Ghuz Turkic dialect..." You have to read and understand the text. It is pretty much clear. It doesn not have to be there word for word. You are the only one here making up excuses. Akocsg (talk) 13:56, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

actually you are the one who does not understand how use the source.you can't use your own words which do not exist in source.do it again and i'll see in you edit war board.94.177.75.219 (talk) 14:00, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Playing dumb won't get you anywhere. The source is pretty clear on this matter. You have been reported. Akocsg (talk) 14:03, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

we'll see.94.177.75.219 (talk) 14:12, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "QAŠQĀʾI TRIBAL CONFEDERACY i. HISTORY". "Like most present-day tribal confederacies in Persia, the Il-e Qašqāʾi is a conglomeration of clans of Turkic ethnic origins. But most of the Qašqāʾi are of Turkic origin, and almost all of them speak a Western Ghuz Turkic dialect which they call Turki." In: Encyclopaedia Iranica. Retrieved 13 May 2015. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)

Note ...

There should Exist a section Detailing Qashqai people Genetic — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.147.138.227 (talk) 07:36, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yale University

@HistoryofIran:, what is wrong with this source, can you explain? Beshogur (talk) 13:48, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

For starters, you removed a source because you didn't agree with it. Can't you honestly see anything wrong with that? --HistoryofIran (talk) 13:51, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@HistoryofIran:, Yale University reports are more precise and reliable. There are more researchs that mentions the same number. You are the one removing this source because WP:IDONTLIKEIT. 1986 dated research of Yale is used here, it's reliable, suddenly it isn't. What's the reason? Beshogur (talk) 13:52, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ironically it is you who is removing a source because WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Feel free to add the Yale source and its information, but don't remove sourced information because it doesn't fit your personal opinion. And please, stop making stuff up, I never said that the Yale source was unreliable. --HistoryofIran (talk) 13:54, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Then why are you removing it? Beshogur (talk) 13:55, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I simply reverted you, I'm not here to do your work for you. You should know this kind of stuff by now. --HistoryofIran (talk) 13:57, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@HistoryofIran:, ok glad it is solved. Beshogur (talk) 14:01, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Qashqai

The Qashqai tribe are the only Turks and are not composed of Lors, Arabs, etc. at all. Arabs, Lors, etc. are among the Qashqai people, but they are not Qashqai. Please correct. 2A03:EF42:C003:45E3:1:2:309B:DBAE (talk) 08:57, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Source? - LouisAragon (talk) 09:52, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling

There are three uses of "Qashgai" instead of "Qashqai" in the History section after the quote. I don't know if this is intentional, and I am not confident enough to edit this. However, it should be clarified if it is an intentional spelling or fixed if it's not.

(I hope this is the right way to bring this up. Sorry if that's not the case. I'm not usually involved in editing Wikipedia.) 2001:569:70AC:F400:4836:D9C2:F079:B186 (talk) 17:45, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "QAŠQĀʾI TRIBAL CONFEDERACY i. HISTORY". "Like most present-day tribal confederacies in Persia, the Il-e Qašqāʾi is a conglomeration of clans of Turkic ethnic origins. But most of the Qašqāʾi are of Turkic origin, and almost all of them speak a Western Ghuz Turkic dialect which they call Turki." In: Encyclopaedia Iranica. Retrieved 13 May 2015. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)

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