Talk:Q35 (New York City bus)

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Review: April 29, 2020. (Reviewed version).

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A fact from Q35 (New York City bus) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 13 August 2019 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that in its early years, New York City's Q35 bus was considered unprofitable, despite charging a double fare for travel between two boroughs?

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Vami IV (talk · contribs) 18:18, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Opening statement

In reviews I conduct, I may make small copyedits. These will only be limited to spelling and punctuation (removal of double spaces and such). I will only make substantive edits that change the flow and structure of the prose if I previously suggested and it is necessary. For replying to Reviewer comment, please use Done, Fixed, Added, Not done, Doing..., or Removed, followed by any comment you'd like to make. I will be crossing out my comments as they are redressed, and only mine. A detailed, section-by-section review will follow. —♠Vami _IV†♠ 18:18, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As this the first of the reviewee's articles that I have reviewed, they should note that I am a grammar pendant and will nitpick in the interest of prose quality. –♠Vami _IV†♠ 18:18, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Vami IV, thanks for taking this up. Kew Gardens 613 is offline till Saturday as he is celebrating Passover and Shabbat. I'll address some of these comments. epicgenius (talk) 19:47, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, good to know. I'll make sure to ping you for each Kew Gardens article I review in the future. –♠Vami _IV†♠ 19:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Prose

There seems to be some missing pieces in "History". Specific examples I can think of are "Why were the buses so dirty in the 1970s?" and "Why, and for how long, was the City nationalizing the transport companies?"

Well, to your specific examples, the 1970s were a very dark time for NYC (see 1975 New York City fiscal crisis). Privatizing transport would've been a good idea at the time. In general, I don't think these are specific to the Q35, which is probably why the original editors did not add these details. epicgenius (talk) 19:52, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

They aren't, but they are important context. I'm sure the sources at least mention those circumstances. "What" and "why" are the two faces of the mint we writers deal in. –♠Vami _IV†♠ 22:27, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed the first one. Maybe Kew Gardens can tackle the other when he comes back. epicgenius (talk) 23:13, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'll leave this On Hold until that time. –♠Vami _IV†♠ 00:30, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

~~(NYCDOT) First and only time this is used.~~
- Done Reworded.
~~Due to franchise restrictions with the city Within the city?~~
- With the city government. epicgenius (talk) 19:52, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
~~Following MTA takeover in 2006 the MTA takeover~~
- Done
~~where several bus routes including the B41 terminate Place commas before "where" and after "B41".~~
- Done
~~before entering the Marine Parkway–Gil Hodges Memorial Bridge [...] just north of the Rockaway Park–Beach 116th Street [...] in front of Neponsit Beach Hospital. Overlinked~~
- Done
~~buses turn west then turn north Remove the second "turn".~~
- Done
~~Move the image in "Creation" to the right.~~
- Done
~~"Deathmobiles" was a reference to Mayor Koch's use of a blue Chrysler Newport that he described as a "deathmobile".[59][60] Irrelevant, remove.~~
- I relocated this into a footnote, because "deathmobiles" was used in the previous sentence. epicgenius (talk) 19:52, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - Good enough a compromise for me. –♠Vami _IV†♠ 22:27, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

~~Take 2~~

Following the MTA takeover in 2006, several stops in Brooklyn were eliminated to streamline service. Essentially, the Q35 makes limited-stops in Brooklyn, while operating as a local in Queens. I'd combine this with the last sentence of the lead's first paragraph.
- Done

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

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@Vami IV: Due to Passover, I won't be able to do any editing from tonight until Thursday evening at the earliest. I am still committed to addressing your concerns with the article. Thanks for your patience and stay safe. @Epicgenius: Thanks so much for helping out!--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 23:11, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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