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A fact from Puankhequa appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 28 August 2014 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the 18th-century Chinese merchant Puankhequa (pictured) owned a firm in the Thirteen Factories district, trading with Europeans?

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Original pic.

I recently found an old catalog (1965) about the exhibitions at the Gothenburg museum. It contains several very good pics of the objects in the collections at the museum, among them the original painting on a mirror given to Niclas Sahlgren by Puankhequa. This is the painting that the other pics are based on. I have asked around at the Commons and tried to understand the copyrights myself and it seems like this pic is free to use. The painting is free to photograph (and upload on Commons) by anyone visiting the museum, as are all object in Swedish museums, and the photo itself has passed the before-1969-limit. I have scanned it, fixed it and uploaded it to Commons. I'll just let it sit there for a while to see if anyone objects, or have better licensing tags. If everything is still stable in a few days, I will replace the pic here. Even if he's dashing in black and red, the original is always better. Best, w.carter-Talk 22:24, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oh thats a free image. European law says that copyright lasts for 70 years after the artists death. If this picture was made in Puankhequa's lifetime then the artist is long dead. Now some museums claim that when they take a photo of a painting then the photo is a new copyright. American law says this is silly. The National Library of Wales say it is too as do many others. The National Portrait Gallerey and quite a few provincial museums have the alt view. Wikipedia says that the image is still free. IMO the image is free of all copyright. Hope that helps Victuallers (talk) 23:16, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I'm just as convinced as you are. The quarantine is just to be on the safe side. Some Swedish museums actually go out of their way to make people come and take pics of the objects in their collections (the objects belongs to the State and are therefore "owned" by all people) and upload the pics on Commons. If one of the staff at the museum did it, the pic wouldn't be free (I think this has something to do with "don't work for another organization during work hours at the museum"). While looking at all the copyrights I came across a discussion at Commons where a curator at the Vasa (ship) museum really begged Commons to accept pics of a model of Vasa just to help spread info about the ship. It was just the catalog-part here that complicated matters a bit. w.carter-Talk 07:29, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]