Talk:Przevalski's nuthatch

Just a note - I'd put taxonomy as first subsection - we've done that for almost all bird FAs to date - and much of this one is about its taxonomic history in the first instance. I'll go and look at its chum at FAC then return.....Cheers, Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 06:58, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for looking! Will do (but definitely not tonight).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 07:20, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Comments from Jim

I'll add as I go along Jimfbleak - talk to me? 09:20, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

• At FAC it's standard now not to link continents or sovereign countries
• You will need to give Imperial conversions of the metric measurements too, using the template is probably easiest (see Eurasian Nuthatch)
• Berezovski book needs a publisher.
• Give publisher locations for all the books or none

 Done as to all, thanks--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:43, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

I made these edits, please check, and revert any you don't agree with. Further comments follow Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:13, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

• throat to the coverts —There are different covert feather on the wing and tail, add location to clarify. Also "color" occurs twice in that sentence
• apart from the White-cheeked Nuthatch—"separate from"?
• S. przewalskii belongs to Leptositta'—the other members of which are...
• is that they lack the common eyestripe— I know what you mean, but it reads a bit clunkily
• distinguishingly— please assure me that this is a word in AE
• native nuthatches—too vague, what species?
• of near-threatened or even classification as a vulnerable species — I would capitalise the statuses, but your call
• Handbook of the Birds of the World and Quinghai are overlinked
• Check if anything else needs a link, eg mandible
• 1,500 km needs a conversion

Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:13, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

All addressed, thanks for looking. Yes, it is a word:-) but I've changed that sentence anyway.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:05, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

No further queries at present. Cas has said he will review, and I notice that Shyamal has made an edit, so I think it will soon be ready to be thrown to the wolves Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:19, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Mine was a quick perusal. Might be useful to check this German work by Hellmayr though - http://biodiversitylibrary.org/page/905094 since it is quite a careful description with a key. It seems to be possible to work through despite a bad Google translate job. Shyamal (talk) 07:26, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Another German (also in Russian) source to look at is this which includes very careful colour descriptions using Ridgway's colour standards. This work also included a plate by Keulemans from which a crop has been added into the taxobox. Shyamal (talk) 08:40, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Picture

Seriously, I think the picture should be changed. It is a good representation of the species for an article of lower class, but we are talking featured articles here. It is only a human painting of the species, and not the species itself. Thus I think it should be moved from the taxobox into the article. The trick is to make it 300 px so it would fit in the article. Meanwhile, a better picture, say a photograph, of the species in the wild should be added to the article instead. Gug01 (talk) 00:36, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

That's fine in principle, but who are you expecting to head for the mountains of western China to take a picture that we can use? I don't think you will find a PD image of this localised species without taking one yourself Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:30, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

What about trying to get permission to use this image: [1]? --JorisvS (talk) 08:56, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

I think that is a good idea, but I can't get permission. Can you get permissions for it instead and add it to the taxobox? Gug01 (talk) 15:15, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

The only way I know is to email a request to the email address in the picture. --JorisvS (talk) 16:15, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

We tried this with both of the images in external links. No answer. Gug01, we always prefer a good photograph if possible. I spent hours looking for one. As said above, if you can find a suitably licensed or PD image, by all means, but we cannot use anything but one of that stripe.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk)

Thank you for the clarification. Gug01 (talk) 21:26, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Image

@Gug01: An image that had been deleted over permission issues has now been restored

File:Przevalski's nuthatch - Chengdong Wang.jpg--S Philbrick(Talk) 12:58, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

@Sphilbrick:, I've finally added it to the article! Thanks for letting us know... MeegsC (talk) 22:08, 9 December 2015 (UTC)