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Why I tagged it
[edit]A reading of the article makes very clear that whoever wrote it seemed to consider themselves a historian. They cite many primary sources - ancient Greek writers - over and over, and make statements that clearly involve interpreting these sources, even though this should be left to scholars who devote themselves to that - secondary sources. As part of this, many of the statements appear not to come from any source.
Some other sources are dubious, such as the Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society, and some are non-English, which makes them near-unverifiable.
Therefore, my tags of more citations needed, OR, and too much reliance on primary sources are fitting. -Crossroads- (talk) 20:28, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
- It would have been far more useful to anybody wishing to improve the article to have specific inline tags where a problem is seen rather than general comments and tags. --John B123 (talk) 20:44, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
- Then many of such tags would be peppered through most of the article. Rather than doing that, a general tag seemed better. What else would such general tags be for? -Crossroads- (talk) 02:48, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
- I wrote the original article (on the French-speaking WP) in 2006, using secondary sources. Back then too many scholarly references were considered a burden. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 13:26, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
- Well, I'm sure you meant well, but I'm glad it's not considered a burden now. I'm a bit confused however by the statement that you used secondary sources to write it. Are you saying you referred to secondary sources to learn about the topic and then wrote it to cite primary sources? Otherwise, if it had secondary sources when written, how has it since come to be based mostly on primary sources? Crossroads -talk- 07:18, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
- I wrote it using mainly Kenneth J. Dover's Greek Homosexuality and Eva C. Keuls' The Reign of the Phallus. They base their work on primary sources, which I quoted. What the article lacks is precise references linking statements to those two books. Also the article was expanded since I first wrote it, of course. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 08:08, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
- I see. Well, since you have a head start on the topic, if you do eventually find the time to add precise references linking statements to those or other secondary sources, that would be much appreciated. Crossroads -talk- 19:49, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
- I wrote it using mainly Kenneth J. Dover's Greek Homosexuality and Eva C. Keuls' The Reign of the Phallus. They base their work on primary sources, which I quoted. What the article lacks is precise references linking statements to those two books. Also the article was expanded since I first wrote it, of course. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 08:08, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
- Well, I'm sure you meant well, but I'm glad it's not considered a burden now. I'm a bit confused however by the statement that you used secondary sources to write it. Are you saying you referred to secondary sources to learn about the topic and then wrote it to cite primary sources? Otherwise, if it had secondary sources when written, how has it since come to be based mostly on primary sources? Crossroads -talk- 07:18, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
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