Talk:Prosopopoeia

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John Edwards?

how the bloody hell is this relevant?: Before becoming a Senator, John Edwards was reputed to have made such an argument in one of his most famous tort cases, representing the family of a girl who had been killed by a defective pool drain. --Ryan Heuser 22:46, 10 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It was a well-known case and a clear example of the use of prosopopoeia as a rhetorical device - if I recall correctly, Edwards specifically told the jurors that the deceased was speaking to them through him (and not in the psychic sense). bd2412 T 00:27, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reality Game.

Is the swedish reality game really relevant. It doesn't have an article of its own, but that can be remedied. I just don't think it meets the notability criteria. It seems like it is just an advertisement to me; an excuse to link to their website.--66.102.196.40 (talk) 16:30, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would tend to agree. Is there any good reason to keep it up there? Does it help explain prosopopoeia in any important way? --Ahatcher (talk) 02:15, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

References broken

Two out of three reference links are broken. Fix? Delete? Keep? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.243.137.56 (talk) 20:43, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't the Sonnet 129 reference be deleted? This looked wrong to me, and no sources I can locate (from a quick online search of several pages of Google results) identify Sonnet 129 as an example of prosopopoeia, let alone a primary instance. It is, however, an example of polyptoton (different conjugations of the same verb--in this poem, "Had... having... to have"). Perhaps this example was pasted to the wrong Wiki entry? Let me know what you think. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.69.72.28 (talk) 04:50, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bible/Biblical Apocrypha

Firstly my apologies for raising an issue, of some importance, but not directly relevant to, prosopopoeia.

I have reverted the change made by White Whirlwind on 13th December 2012 on two grounds.

Firstly that the Book of Sirach (or Ecclesiasticus) is contained as a full canonical book within the Bible by the majority of Christians (Roman Catholic, Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox and Anglican) both historically and today. This directly counters White Whirlwinds claim that "most modern Bibles do not contain Sirach" - more details of which books are considered canon, and by whom, can be found at the Wiki page Development of the Christian biblical canon.

Secondly historically the Christian Bible has come down through time from the Roman Catholic, Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox Churches and the changes made to it by the Protestant Reformers and subsequent sectarians are modifications of the original and the original should I feel be given more emphasis than the reesultant changed version.

I have added a link to the Wiki page for the book of Sirach as well as restored the link for the Bible (which covers the ground on the Canon and what books/which sect considers to be canonical.

Spelling bee

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna24893447

Any interesting or useful way to incorporate this source? finding new sources for the rest

Drew Stanley (talk) 22:32, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Examples without citations

These were all on the page before. I'll add them back if I can find citations. For now, removing!

Speaking with another's voice A classic example of this usage can be found in the deuterocanonical book of Sirach in the Bible, where Wisdom is personified and made to speak to the people and to the reader: Wisdom sings her own praises,

   among her own people she proclaims her glory.
In the assembly of the Most High she opens her mouth,
   in the presence of his host she tells of her glory:
"From the mouth of the Most High I came forth,
   and covered the earth like a mist."

— Another example occurs in the second section of the Cooper Union speech by Abraham Lincoln, who creates a mock debate between Republicans and the South, a debate in which he becomes spokesman for the party. Ascribing human characteristics to a non-person In Jeremiah 47, there is a dialogue between the sword of the Lord and the prophet: Ah! Sword of the LORD!

   When will you find rest?
Return to your scabbard;
   stop, be still!
How can it find rest
   when the LORD has commanded it?
Against Ashkelon and the seacoast,
   there he has appointed it.

— In court a prosecutor may suggest to jurors that a homicide victim is "speaking to us through the evidence". Before becoming a Senator, John Edwards was reputed to have made such an argument in one of his most famous tort cases, representing the family of a girl who had been killed by a defective pool drain. Slavoj Žižek, in his book The Year of Dreaming Dangerously (Verso Books 2012, p. 14), wrote: The mere possibility of a Syriza victory has sent ripples of fear through markets around the world, and, again as is usual in such cases, ideological prosopopoeia is having a heyday: markets begin to talk like a living person, expressing their "worry" at what will happen if the elections fail to produce a government with a mandate to continue the EU - IMF program of fiscal austerity and structural reform. William Shakespeare, Sonnet 129 reads, in part: Th' expense of spirit in a waste of shame

Is lust in action; and, till action, lust
Is perjured, murd'rous, bloody, full of blame,
Savage, extreme, rude, cruel, not to trust;
Enjoyed no sooner but despised straight;
Past reason hunted, and no sooner had,
Past reason hated, as a swallowed bait. Drew Stanley (talk) 17:56, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]