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More pronghorns than people in WY?

Wyoming has a population of ~560,000. The number for the entire pronghorn population given is 500,000. So is the claim that there are more pronghorns than humans in Wyoming false, or is the pronghorn population number low?--129.72.152.165 (talk) 20:42, 27 June 2008 (UTC) Actually, the "entire" pronghorn population given on the main page is incorrect, it should show that the total population of pronghorn is approximately 1,000,000 (400,000 to 450,000 in Wyoming^[1], 150,000 to 175,000 in Montana^[2]. That stat of having more than the population is actually an old fact and currently the human population (of Wyoming) is a bit above a half million and the pronghorn population (of Wyoming) is over 400,000. Finally, the statement on the main page discussing the decline points to a statistic that is strictly for Texas and the overall population is up nearly 25% in the last 20 years.95Alabama (talk) 05:09, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

References

Cite for speed, please

"The top recorded speed was 61 mph (98 km/h)." - Let's have a cite, please.

I've removed this claim cited from infoplease.com, as it isn't supported by several other far more authoritative sources - MPF (talk) 12:33, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

citations

You may find this useful:

SCIENCE WATCH; Marathoner of Animals New York Times. (Late Edition (East Coast)). New York, N.Y.: Oct 29, 1991. pg. C.2 "When threatened by a fleet-footed prairie predator like a wolf, the pronghorn can average 40 miles an hour for more than six miles."

Animals That Are Peerless Athletes ANGIER, NATALIE. New York Times. (Late Edition (East Coast)). New York, N.Y.: Jun 1, 1993. pg. C.1 "Its maximum speed of 60 miles per hour makes it the fastest land mammal. The Pronghorn can maintain its freeway stride for an hour." Gwynplaine 10:05, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The antelope Pronghorn, this is the fastest land mammal with a peak extremely speed (80 mph) 130 km/h, the cheetah because in reality (the animal Satan) does not exceed (75 mph) 120 km/h at maxium, and is rivaled by various gazelles (Springboks, Grant's, Blackbucks, Soemmering's).--Angel310 (talk) 09:29, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

vandalism

undid minor change that knocked out reference header. apparent vandalismRvannatta 01:02, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The october 29 edit seems to be by a controversial editor with out citation. While not vandalism on its face, it seems to be a doubtful change with no discussion which is disfavored.Rvannatta 22:23, 29 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

your edits if the prong horn page suggesting that the prong horn and an antelope are the same does not seem supported any any information. what is your authority....???? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rvannatta (talk • contribs) 02:02, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My authority is none other than Wikipedia itself: the Antelopes are a number of species in the family Bovidae, so i) there is no such thing as "the antelope", and ii) the pronghorn does not belong to Bovidae, but to its own (related) family, Antilocapridae (as is clearly explained on the Antelope page). And, I don't see how this edit could possibly be vandalism. Tjunier 07:17, 31 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not the one that reverted this edit. I have noted that the IP address making the edit has been the subject of a number of

allegations of vandalism. It is my understanding however that wikipedia cannot be cited as authority for something as that is bootstrapping.Rvannatta 02:32, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Give birth to twins?

Just now watching a Yellowstone documentary, where they said (and maybe I misinterpreted) that pronghorn give birth to twins. From the phrasing I couldn't tell if this was an "always" sort of thing. Can anyone confirm or deny?

Most of the time, they are twins. But not all of the time. It is actually a little creepy, they normally have as many as seven zygotes develop, 5 (or so) are killed in the womb by the growth of the (usually) two surviving ones. DFS (talk) 20:00, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=3319522 Aggression amongst females.
http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0012-9658%28198606%2967%3A3%3C760%3AFRABPA%3E2.0.CO%3B2-H&size=LARGE&origin=JSTOR-enlargePage Foraging with Bison, Prairie dogs.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WNH-45KKT2Y-V&_user=1790654&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000054312&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=1790654&md5=293f7d9b0a1c42f99d37c52031ebfbfb Bovidae cladistics.
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1046/j.1471-8286.2003.00334.x Genetics. Marskell (talk) 18:40, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

horns

there are two consecutive, redundant paragraphs discussing the horns. clearly this should be corrected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.118.248.231 (talk) 21:49, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

nicknames

Nicknames:
- "Speed Goat"
- "Prairie Ghost"
- "Desert Racer"
- "Goat-a-lope"
- "Prairie Goat"
- "Sagebrush Rockets"
- "Land Carp"
- "Ranch Maggots"

I removed this, as it is not cited, in the correct section, and not very clear. innotata (Talk | Contribs) 17:45, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Update range map?

The range map is definitely not accurate. There's an entire Oregon subspecies, but the range map doesn't show anything in Oregon. There's probably more wrong with it, but that's the one I can see immediately, since I see prognhorns in Oregon with some regularity.67.171.240.25 (talk) 01:52, 29 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Taxobox is horribly messed up

Can someone fix it? TangoFett (talk) 22:06, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I see what you mean, but I think the problem lies within some template used ({{speciesbox}} or one of its subtemplates) and not in the article itself. Richard 08:27, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Migration

I can't find this information anywhere, so I might as well bring it up here.

What are their migration habits? I've heard about the one in Wyoming, but the description in the range part of the article is about one spanning from Montana to...somewhere on the Continental Divide.

Do all pronghorn migrate?

If not, what do the non-migrating ones do?

Do the ones that do all meet up in a certain area before migrating? (As they travel on a set path.)

What are all of the starting locations for all migrating pronghorn populations?Artheartsoul1 (talk) 16:50, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Here is something about PH migration:

http://www.nwf.org/wildlife/wildlife-library/mammals/pronghorn.aspx

Would you like to edit this article? Be bold!

Kortoso (talk) 20:47, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to add that the sentence "The migrating pronghorn start travel from the foothills of the Pioneer Mountains through Craters of the Moon National Monument to the Continental Divide. " doesn't make sense. Th continental divide is between the Pioneer Mountains and the Craters of the moon. So — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.123.208.30 (talk) 21:32, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There is one migration in Wyoming traveling from the Green River Basin to Jackson Hole in Spring and returning to the Green River Basin in the Fall. They do this to avoid the deep snow in Jackson Hole in Winter. Almost all Pronghorns remain in the same area year round and rarely leave that area unless forced, but then return to their area when it is safe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.145.233.34 (talk) 18:24, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Distrib and range question

"Coastal southern California".

I'm sure that was their historical range, not their current range. Today I'd be surprised to see one on the 405. Kortoso (talk) 20:44, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

They were re-introduced in the 1980s to Carrizo Plain National Monument, that's likely what they mean. DFS (talk) 19:58, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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"Parallel" vs "Convergent" evolution

On List of examples of convergent evolution#Mammals, it includes the similarity of the pronghorn and the antelope as an example of convergent evolution. However, this article says that this is actually an instance of parallel evolution, which is apparently a different thing. Which is correct? GSMR (talk) 20:21, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Adding photos of pronghorn hunting

The article mentions hunting is part of population control in Wyoming, but there aren't any hunting photos. Pronghorn are commonly seen inside the city limits of Gillette, Wyoming. They are part of the culture and history of city with buttes, businesses, residential subdivisions, and teams named after the animal. The city used to hold an antelope hunt and hosted hunters from across the country. Here are two photo postcards that were probably part of that annual event. The photos show field dressed pronghorn that might be useful.

Photo postcard of field dressed pronghorn
Hand-painted photo postcard of field dressed pronghorn

Mr. Satterly (talk) 18:37, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttp://www.whfw.org/fun_facts.asp

[2] ttp://www.50states.com/facts/mont.htm

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