Talk:Progressive Republicans (France)

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I'm not sure if the entire Third Republic political stubs need a rework or not (That is to say the liberal union page here, as well as the national republican association/moderate republican page)

The issue is this: Political parties were very weak in the French Republic, more of just national associations that linked like minded candidates for the purpose helping them getting elected; but they had no real authority on anyone, especially on the 'right' of the Republicans, that is to say, Moderate republicans. Moderates continued their party of noteable tendencies well into the fourth republic with the CNIP, party of liberty, etc. In other words; the Republican national association thats covered is not a political party, rather, it is just a more organized proto-party tendency aimed towards election, as was the Liberal Union. Even within this article it conflates (in combination with the republican national association article) "Progressive" meline supporters as either within or outside of the party. And that is because in many cases they were, as these designations dont meaningfully overlap. I think following the evolution of parties/electoral associations over the evolution of parliamentary groups is misguided in this case. Parliamentary groups were the 'real' parties until after the second world war. Only the socialists had a party in the modern sense of the word. Progressive Republicans encompassed all moderate republicans, i.e both national association and liberal union members, unattached republicans of the center, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Virse dazed (talk • contribs) 12:07, 23 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This discussion should be focused on the democratic union, progressive union, radical left parlimentary groups. etc. For instance even the electoral pages mistake this issue. All of the french election pages have a "Union of the Rights" Party, which is then, often, subdivided into its actual parliamentary groupings. There was no party called 'union of the rights' it was just a loose association of monarchists and conservatives united together to pass candidates through the two round voting. There was no 'union of the rights' party per se, though later there was a parilmentary group called the Union of the right. Conflating party/parliamentary group/electoral associations constantly.