Talk:Professor Frink/GA1

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Reviewer: J Milburn (talk) 21:27, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Frink is generally very polite and friendly, but has a trademark mannerism of using gibberish when excited,[3][11][12] such as "HOYVIN-GLAVIN!" and "FLAVIN" and impulsively shouting other words that have no relevance to the situation at hand,[13][14] and occasionally refers to the importance of remembering to "carry the one" in various mathematical calculations.[15][16]" Long sentence and difficult to follow.
- Y Done. Theleftorium ^(talk) 22:32, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"created the element "Frinkonium"." Surely, you discover elements, rather than creating them?
- Y Done. Theleftorium ^(talk) 22:32, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"Some of Frink's inventions, such as the automatic phone dialer (which Homer uses to call his neighbors with a recorded message and scam them for money),[26] work better than others, such as his small remote-controlled plane that carries babies as passengers (it crashed),[27] or a burglar-proof house that sprouts legs and runs away from potential danger (the legs of which often collapsed causing the house to crash to the ground and catch fire).[28]" I worry that declaring some to work better than others, though fairly obvious, would constitute original research
- Y Done. Theleftorium ^(talk) 22:32, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"The nonsensical utterances that Frink makes are written in the scripts as "Frink noise".[14]" Is it worth mentioning the "annoyed grunt" and such along with that? Does the source?
- I'm not sure since I can't access the article now. Newsbank doesn't let you search Australian newspapers anymore, only American ones. It's quite annoying... Theleftorium ^(talk) 22:32, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think it would be worth mentioning his role in the movie earlier in the article
- Y Done. Theleftorium ^(talk) 22:32, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"The professor has also had an impact on real life science: a computer programming language and a space reactor analysis tool have been named in honor of him." I'd like to see more here- some details about both could probably afford to be brought in.
- Y Done. Theleftorium ^(talk) 23:32, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - You've removed all mention of the tool, whatever it is. J Milburn (talk) 23:39, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    - Yeah, I actually have no idea who added that to the article but I really doubt there is a connection between the Simpsons character and that tool. The name of the tool, FRINK, is an abbreviation of "Fission Reactor Integrated Nuclear Kinetics". Theleftorium ^(talk) 23:45, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The way episode names are cited in the refs is inconsistent
- Not sure if I've fixed this or not. Please check. Theleftorium ^(talk) 23:05, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Article (like newspaper articles) titles should be in sentence case
- Y Done. Theleftorium ^(talk) 23:39, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - You've changed them from sentence case. I don't really mind, as I'm not aware of anything in the MoS, but it does look a little odd in places. That said, consistency is nice. J Milburn (talk) 23:45, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    - However, I doubt all the words need to start with an uppercase letter- I'd follow the rules of the band/song/album naming conventions for guidance here. A quick bang around the MoS has not revealed anything helpful here... J Milburn (talk) 23:50, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    - My mistake, I've changed it to sentence case now! Theleftorium ^(talk) 23:54, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The italics in ref 37 need fixing
- Y Done. Theleftorium ^(talk) 23:05, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The way ref 38 is cited is different from other cites of the same type
- Y Done. Theleftorium ^(talk) 23:05, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
A reference for his full name and his relatives' names would be good
- Y Done. Theleftorium ^(talk) 23:05, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
A little cleanup on the rationale would be nice, but the lead image is justified.
- Y Done. Theleftorium ^(talk) 23:05, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The sources are appropriate, the page is stable and the tone is sound. A solid article, I'd be happy to promote if a few things are dealt with. J Milburn (talk) 21:57, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Having another quick look through...

Perhaps it would be best mentioning in the lead that he is mostly commonly known as "Professor Frink"- not necessarily clear from the article right now.
- Done! Theleftorium ^(talk) 11:37, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Weird thing to ask, but it sticks out like a sore thumb- why on EARTH are you referencing the Science article?
- Because it mentions Frink! ;) See here. Theleftorium ^(talk) 11:37, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"The character's popularity has led to him giving name to a computer programming language." Could this perhaps be rephrased so that the name of the language is shown in the prose?
- Done! Theleftorium ^(talk) 11:37, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In addition, a couple of thoughts for future articles, or if you're interested in FAC. Troy McClure is shorter, but is now featured- may be worth a shot!

The reception section is a little quote heavy- not a massive deal, but worth thinking about for future articles/if you want to take this further.
I'm not sure about the section title "character". I get that the distinction is sort of that "Role" is concerned with details of the character themselves, while "character" is more real world stuff, but is there are a better way to do it? "Development", maybe?
Another thing to think about, but not a massive deal at this stage- you declare the Halloween episodes non-canon, yet cite them fairly heavily. Obviously, his role in them and, especially, the episode with his father are important, but, if non-canon, probably shouldn't be used so freely for canon information on the character. Something to think about.
The lists of references break up the sentences in places, making it difficult to read. It may be worth considering combining references into a single footnote.

Ok, I think that's everything. J Milburn (talk) 11:20, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the suggestions! I'm not taking this to FA right now though, do I have to fix them for you to pass it as a GA? Theleftorium ^(talk) 11:37, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Nope, they're just things to think on- perhaps things to be aware of in future articles, too. Feel free to drop me a line if this article's going any further. I'm happy to promote now- good work. J Milburn (talk) 11:40, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - I see! Great, thanks for an excellent review! :D Theleftorium ^(talk) 11:41, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    - One last thought (and get the camera ready, you won't often see me suggesting the addition of non-free content)- as his voice and the sounds he makes are important, it may be worth considering a sample as a useful addition to the article. J Milburn (talk) 11:45, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]