Talk:Princess Diana (song)/Archive 1
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Did you know nomination
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The result was: promoted by Lightburst (talk) 15:31, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
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- ... that Ice Spice is Princess Diana? Source: The Cut; Nylon
Converted from a redirect by Your Power (talk). Self-nominated at 09:31, 14 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Princess Diana (song); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
New enough and long enough. QPQ present. This will be an incredible quirky... It jumped out at me and made me review it. No issues I can see; good to go. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:08, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I'm not understanding how the hook is backed up by the article and sources. As I understand it, Gaston has been called "The People's Princess" but is not actually referred to as "Princess Diana". In the song lyric quoted in the sources, she says "I'm like Princess Diana" (my emphasis). I may be missing something here, but it's not at all obvious to me. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 07:06, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- This feels like a needless nitpick. With quirkies there should be leeway for some degree of creative freedom, because otherwise it loses the fun. the hook deliberately leans into the memetic metaphors re. Princess Diana, which the article does discuss and cites to RS. Hence the "X is Y" structure; saying "ice spice is like princess diana" is 10000x less effective because much of the memes aren't similes in nature. And the lyric is actually "in the hood like I'm Princess Diana", so.. Elias 🌊 💬 "Will you call me?"
📝 "Will you hang me out to dry?" 08:40, 18 April 2023 (UTC)- I'm sorry to insist on this, but even a quirky does have to be factually accurate. I haven't seen the memes, I'm only going by what's in the article. Is she widely referred to by the name "Princess Diana"? If so, then the hook is fine, but that information would need to be added to the article. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 15:55, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- Respectfully, just look at the memes instead of continuing to proclaim you haven't. Many people have called her "the Princess Diana of her generation"; this is now evident in the article too, so your worries should be more than assuaged. Even without that in the prose, it is not a reach to conclude she "is Princess Diana" upon seeing that a nickname given to Princess Diana has also been applied to Ice Spice. Elias 🌊 💬 "Will you call me?"
📝 "Will you hang me out to dry?" 09:58, 19 April 2023 (UTC)- Thanks for adding that to the article, the NYT source sufficiently verifies the hook. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 16:49, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
- Respectfully, just look at the memes instead of continuing to proclaim you haven't. Many people have called her "the Princess Diana of her generation"; this is now evident in the article too, so your worries should be more than assuaged. Even without that in the prose, it is not a reach to conclude she "is Princess Diana" upon seeing that a nickname given to Princess Diana has also been applied to Ice Spice. Elias 🌊 💬 "Will you call me?"
- I'm sorry to insist on this, but even a quirky does have to be factually accurate. I haven't seen the memes, I'm only going by what's in the article. Is she widely referred to by the name "Princess Diana"? If so, then the hook is fine, but that information would need to be added to the article. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 15:55, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
- This feels like a needless nitpick. With quirkies there should be leeway for some degree of creative freedom, because otherwise it loses the fun. the hook deliberately leans into the memetic metaphors re. Princess Diana, which the article does discuss and cites to RS. Hence the "X is Y" structure; saying "ice spice is like princess diana" is 10000x less effective because much of the memes aren't similes in nature. And the lyric is actually "in the hood like I'm Princess Diana", so.. Elias 🌊 💬 "Will you call me?"
- Sorry, but I'm not understanding how the hook is backed up by the article and sources. As I understand it, Gaston has been called "The People's Princess" but is not actually referred to as "Princess Diana". In the song lyric quoted in the sources, she says "I'm like Princess Diana" (my emphasis). I may be missing something here, but it's not at all obvious to me. Sojourner in the earth (talk) 07:06, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
