Talk:Princess Der Ling

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Therefore?

The first sentence in the second paragraph seemed illogical, or at least very ambigous:

Yu Keng's daughters Der Ling and Rong Ling (the future Madame Dan Paochao of Beijing) therefore got a western education, having studied dance in Paris with Isadora Duncan.

I guess the 'therefore' points back to the fact of Yu Keng living in Paris, but it could (grammatically) be taken to refer to his death. Also, I assume the girls' western education was due to Yu Keng's stay in Paris and that dancing was a part of the girls' education, not a cause or explanation for it. I propose changing it to:

Yu Keng brought his daughters, Der Ling and Rong Ling (the future Madame Dan Paochao of Beijing), to stay with him in Paris. There they received a western education. They studied dance with Isadora Duncan.

I feel this is clearer, but I'm not sure if this means exactly the same. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.126.207.212 (talk) 15:48, 27 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fake princess

It is definitely impossible for a member of Manchu Plain White Banner Corps to become a princess. His father was an official but not a lord. Yu Derling was a woman of vanity and almost a liar!~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.168.88.62 (talk) 02:24, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Der Ling was a Chinese Bannerwoman. She was not a member of the Manchu Banners like she claimed.

https://books.google.com/books?id=y_nBKizpn18C&pg=PA90#v=onepage&q&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=sNPFc7kkjwAC&pg=PA6#v=onepage&q&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=y_nBKizpn18C&pg=PA90&dq=der+ling+chinese+banner&hl=en&sa=X&ei=1XzBVJbYEMWpgwSJwIKYBA&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=der%20ling%20chinese%20banner&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=sNPFc7kkjwAC&pg=PR17&dq=der+ling+chinese+banner&hl=en&sa=X&ei=1XzBVJbYEMWpgwSJwIKYBA&ved=0CDUQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=der%20ling%20chinese%20banner&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=y_nBKizpn18C&pg=PA90&dq=der+ling+banner&hl=en&sa=X&ei=VHzBVLWSNsGcgwSck4P4Bw&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=der%20ling%20banner&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=sNPFc7kkjwAC&pg=PA351&dq=der+ling+banner&hl=en&sa=X&ei=VHzBVLWSNsGcgwSck4P4Bw&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=der%20ling%20banner&f=false

Rajmaan (talk) 22:44, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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