Talk:Princess Daisy/G6 discussion
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I declined to delete this page to allow the Mario character Princess Daisy (Mario) to be moved to this title, due to the existence of the novel and film Princess Daisy and its title character. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 00:45, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
- I beg to differ -- neither of the other three articles are about a character called Princess Daisy, the disambiguator would thus be the best one in this case. A hatnote can redirect if needed. Salvidrim! 00:58, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not intensely committed to the idea of not having the Mario character at Princess Daisy (character), but on the other hand I don't see any discussion at all at Talk:Princess Daisy (Mario), much less any consensus there that the page ought to be moved. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:13, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
- The title of the page doesn't change (Princess Daisy), only the disambiguator ((Mario) to (character)). This is not a proposal to rename the article, but merely to bring it in line with WP:NCDAB, which states that a broader class is preferred to a more specific subcategorization whenever possible; as such, it should be evidently non-controversial as the page was properly created mere hours ago and it is likely, since it was the first and only edit of its creator, Snoopingas64, that he simply was unaware of titling conventions. It is more of an error correction than an actual change. Both Princess Daisy (Mario) & Princess Daisy (character) were redirects to the same character list (which was appropriate), the editor simply picked the wrong one to convert into a full-fledged article And if there is opposition in the future for whatever reason we cannot foresee, then it can follow standard WP:BRD and a WP:RM will be used to confirm the appropriate title. Salvidrim! 01:53, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
- The qualifier is part of the article title. See Wikipedia:Article titles, which begins, "An article title is the large heading displayed above the content of any article." So, yes, this is a proposal to rename the article. And I don't see where anyone else has agreed to this move other than you. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:12, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
- I believe the inexactitude of my wording does not diminish the validity of the request. There was an error made hours ago by an inexperienced editor unaware of WP:NCDAB, this requests fixes the error, nothing more; as such it is believed to be uncontroversial correction, not a "fundamental rename requiring consensus". As per WP:TITLE (which you've partly quoted above), second paragraph, an "article title" is composed of two things:
- The qualifier is part of the article title. See Wikipedia:Article titles, which begins, "An article title is the large heading displayed above the content of any article." So, yes, this is a proposal to rename the article. And I don't see where anyone else has agreed to this move other than you. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:12, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
- The title of the page doesn't change (Princess Daisy), only the disambiguator ((Mario) to (character)). This is not a proposal to rename the article, but merely to bring it in line with WP:NCDAB, which states that a broader class is preferred to a more specific subcategorization whenever possible; as such, it should be evidently non-controversial as the page was properly created mere hours ago and it is likely, since it was the first and only edit of its creator, Snoopingas64, that he simply was unaware of titling conventions. It is more of an error correction than an actual change. Both Princess Daisy (Mario) & Princess Daisy (character) were redirects to the same character list (which was appropriate), the editor simply picked the wrong one to convert into a full-fledged article And if there is opposition in the future for whatever reason we cannot foresee, then it can follow standard WP:BRD and a WP:RM will be used to confirm the appropriate title. Salvidrim! 01:53, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not intensely committed to the idea of not having the Mario character at Princess Daisy (character), but on the other hand I don't see any discussion at all at Talk:Princess Daisy (Mario), much less any consensus there that the page ought to be moved. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:13, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
- The name (or a name) of the subject of the article, or it may be a description of the topic
- Distinguishing information, often in the form of a description in parentheses after the name.
- This request doesn't change the name of the article, Princess Daisy, but only the second, more technical part (the disambiguator).
- In any case, if unforeseen concerns arise after the correction of the initial mistake, WP:BRD exists to handle such disagreements. I would've done this move myself, boldly as appropriate, but it requires a technical step that only admins can complete. Completing this step doesn't mean you endorse the move, simply that you're lending your assistance from a technical viewpoint and the move remains my bold decision to correct a mistake. As such, and as per BRD, if there are concerns it will be moved back to Princess Daisy (Mario) and a full-fledged RM can and will then take place before the mistake in the article's titling is corrected. Salvidrim! 02:52, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
- If another admin performs the move, I won't reverse them, so you would probably be best off requesting another admin to do so. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 03:08, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
Retagged for second opinion. Salvidrim! 03:12, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
Requested Move
[edit]A requested move involving this recently created page as a target has been started here. Salvidrim! 05:54, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
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