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I'm new to Wikipedia, so not sure how to edit yet, but I do think the section about the Earl & Countess's baby should have a brief mention of the great difficulty the Countess had in delivering the baby - emergency C-section, and that the baby was born prematurely by at least a month —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.205.136.100 (talk • contribs) 11:32, 21 November 2004

So, be bold! DavidBrooks

Gay?

"haunted" by rumours that he is gay? I think that's too subjective, unless you have evidence. Sure, he did have to deny it publicly (risking a "protest too much" reaction). But I think that says more about the British media than the Prince. Not trying to be to hagiographic here - although a friend who know him at Cambridge asserted to me that he was definitely straight. DavidBrooks 01:50, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Not gay? "... he worked on such plays as Phantom of the Opera, Starlight Express and Cats." I think that says it all. Seminumerical 14:15, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Rather worrying and subjective comment open to libel actions. Aussiebrisguy 16:11, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

I think the rumours about his potential closet homosexuality are far more prevalent than this article would suggest. It's referenced quite regularly in British satirical comedy shows like Mock the Week and Have I Got News for You. Happily the mention of the rumours in this article is much less leading now, but I don't think it's adequate to be NPOV. How did the rumours start, for example? leevclarke (talk) 01:07, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Let's remember that the criterion for something getting mentioned on Mock the Week and Have I Got News for You is not "is it true" but "is it funny". I think WP:BLP cuts in here. DJ Clayworth (talk) 01:09, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Edinburgh Dukedom

This is fascinating. I doubt if the courtiers ever thought of this! Well done to the author.

Why is his daughter mentioned as "heiress presumptive" of his earldom? Will she once inherit it?! 24.5.07 Msvj

No, there is no remainder for females in the creation of the earldom. DBD 14:19, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Surely the Queen means that Charles would NOT become Duke, it would be Edward would become Duke. That is because Phillip got Dukedom so as to give him a higher title above his sons, and an occupation. No need for the Prince of Wales and future king to be also Duke, and it won't be long before he is king.. presumably the queen will have not be reigning until death, stoic as her committment to "God" is.. I take it that the talk of "god gave me the right to rule, and its not for me to undo that.". can be interpreted.. She hints she leaves it to "God" .. She isn't going to talk about being bad things, such as being a senile vegetable in a bed for a decade, but she must admit an act of god, "force majeur" , may well cause retirement before her death, she just means she isn't going off a time table prematurely .. she never said she will retire at 75, or 80.. or 85... no fixed end date.

Well anyway, the talk of the Queen giving over to Dukedom to Edward seems oddly moot, as the event of taking it from Phillip is seemingly far far to unlikely, at this date, to occur while she is monarch. (the life expectancy of a man who is 1 year old is about 85 years. The life of expectancy of someone who is 85, and still quite fit (no illness creating a big risk) , having already proved they are fit to live 85 years, is around 15 years or so.. Its unlikely the end of the Queens reign will occur after the death of the current Duke of Endinborough.. its a hypothetical and morbid thing.. it seems to be wishing phillip die, which the royals just do not do. You won't get a confirming statement. )

The Queen has no power to "take" the Dukedom from Prince Philip, or to "give it over" to Prince Edward. Unless Parliament decides otherwise, Prince Philip is the Duke of Edinburgh until his death, at which point his eldest son will inherit it - the line of succession to the title goes Prince Charles, Prince William, Prince George, Prince Andrew, then Prince Edward. In order for Prince Edward to become Duke - which it has been indicated is the plan - then once the title has merged with the crown - when the holder of the title becomes King, or when the title passes on to the King, as the monarch cannot hold a peerage - the King will re-issue the title to Prince Edward, making him the 1st Duke of Edinburgh in its 4th creation (the present Duke being the 1st Duke of Edinburgh in its 3rd creation). Psunshine87 (talk) 08:31, 9 September 2015 (UTC)


220.233.121.43 (talk) 02:56, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Can someone please explain the logic behind not making Edward a duke like his older brothers. His mother wants him to inherit his father's title of Duke of Edinburgh and so Edward has to wait for his father to die in order to become a duke? I know there are specialists in the protocol of the peerage who can explain it to us. 66.162.249.170 (talk) 23:05, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

He was to become Duke of Edinburgh upon his mother’s death, but it appears Charles III will not pass on the title. Jhurley85 (talk) 14:20, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

Prince Edward

Why does Prince Edward redirect here? There are plenty of other Prince Edwards, including, but not limited to, the Eal of Wessex's great-uncle, Edward VIII and his great-great grandfather, Edward VII, as well as lots of other Prince Edwards of England, and Prince Edwards of other countries. 156.63.85.15 19:03, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

It would be most likly that some would type Prince Edward to find him. Today when someone talk of Prince Edwards it is 99% the Earl of Wessex

Edward VII wasn't prince Edward, he was Prince Albert, and if looking for these other Edwards would most likely type king and not prince anyway. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.172.135.224 (talk) 20:55, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Education

I refer to the following passage in the Education section of the entry on Prince Edward: “...Prince Edward enrolled at Jesus College, University of Cambridge reading history. He graduated with a Bachelor of Arts degree in 1986. This makes Prince Edward only the third member of the Royal Family in history to have obtained a university degree (the others being Charles, Prince of Wales and his nephew Prince William of Wales).”

Wikipedia sources imply that there is in fact a fourth, unlisted member of the Royal Family to have obtained a university degree.

His Royal Highness Prince Richard, Duke of Gloucester (first-cousin of Queen Elizabeth II through their grandfather, King George V), is described in Wikipedia thus: “In 1963, he went to Magdalene College, Cambridge to read architecture. He received the degree of Bachelor of Arts in June 1966.”

The Wikipedia entry on the British Royal Family confirms that Prince Richard is a member of it, since he is styled “His Royal Highness”.

In summary, Prince Richard (1) is a member of the British Royal Family, and (2) obtained a university degree. Incidentally, because Prince Charles left Gordonstoun boarding school with A levels in 1967, Prince Richard must have been chronologically the first to graduate university (in 1966, as shown above).

Therefore, I suggest the following amendment to the Education section on the Wikipedia entry for Prince Edward: “This makes Prince Edward only the third of four members of the Royal Family in history to have obtained a university degree--the others being Prince Richard, Duke of Gloucester (first cousin of Queen Elizabeth II through their grandfather, King George V), his nephew, Charles, Prince of Wales, and Prince Edward's own nephew, Prince William of Wales.”

69.158.130.52 05:30, 27 September 2005 (UTC)Peter Johnson <REMOVEdr_data25@hotmail.com>

Sitcom

This clip mentions a sitcom he was involved it called "Annie's Bar" - care to mention it?--Crestville 19:12, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

User:Aussiebrisguy's edit

I would kindly ask that Aussiebrisguy would leave the page how it is. Everytime he reverts it, he breaks some links (ie to Really Useful Group), insers his POV (with regard to It's A Royal Knockout; its was "widely-ridiculed", although a source would be nice) and the phrase "unfounded media rumours" about his sexuality is also POV. He also reinserts the sentence "As part of the celebrations of the 50th anniversary of the Duke of Edinburgh Award scheme the prince visited Richard Huish College in Taunton, Somerset. There he met with several representatives and participants of the scheme."; this is totally uneeded. I would ask for others users to help me make sure that Aussiebrisguy does not keep to vandalise this page. --UpDown 11:47, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Royals with University Degree

The article mentions that Prince Edward is one of only five members of the Royal Family in history to have obtained a university degree.

If another Wikipedia article is accurate, there are at least six. Lady Gabriella Windsor graduated from Brown University in 2004.

See Lady Gabriella Windsor

She is not titled "HRH" but she is still a member of the Royal Family.

Fatladysang 01:12, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

She's not HRH therefore she's not Royal Family – although she may be described as "royal family" or "extended royal family", she's not "Royal Family" DBD 09:01, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
She's not a member of the royal family per se but she is in the "extended" family. J8149ZZ (talk) 11:13, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Similarly Lord Frederick Windsor is a graduate of the University of Oxford, having been placed in class II division 1 in the Final Honour School of Literae Humaniores.--Oxonian2006 (talk) 23:33, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Dress at the senataph.

This is the only "Royal" not to have competed an honourable period of service in the armed forces. Would it not have been appropriate for him to have attended as the civilian that he is? Brian Thompson. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.158.102.148 (talk) 15:03, 14 November 2010 (UTC) He is Royal Colonel of the London Regiment, not a civilian and you misspelled Cenotaph. One would think if you would criticize someone, you would at least be accurate in the facts you use to back up your assertion. 74.69.121.132 (talk) 20:42, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Military status

I don't think it's accurate to say he resigned his commission. He started the basic training that all Marine recruits must complete before being assessed for a commission, but he did not complete the course. As he never joined a unit, he is only notionally an ex-Marine at all. 86.145.155.99 (talk) 15:34, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

(Me again). By the same token, I don't think it's accurate to say he joined the Royal Marines as an officer cadet. Royal Marine recruits all train together, before some are selected for commissions. Valetude (talk) 17:41, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
The citation doesn't say anything about a commission, so I removed it. Celia Homeford (talk) 11:48, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

House of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg

References to the House of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg are being added to multiple articles related to the Royal Family of the Commonwealth realms, and yet, not one reliable source has been provided. I yesterday began a discussion about this at Talk:House of Windsor#House of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg. Input there by interested parties would be appreciated. --Ħ MIESIANIACAL 13:26, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

The use of "The Prince Edward" in article opening

I am arguing that the short form of a British royal prince or princess in the opening of the article should include the "The" where applicable, as in "The Prince Edward." I argue that this is distinctive and meaningful as indicated on the British Monarchy's website. I would not, however, include HRH in the opening as this would be like using "Mr" which is not consistent with Wikipedia style as that is purely an honorific. The use of "The" indicates that the prince is a child of the monarch.

The use of "The" is not simply an honorific.

It is unwise to split discussions across multiple pages. Please direct all discussion to Talk:Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh#The use of "The Prince Philip" in article opening. DrKay (talk) 20:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

I agree, I'll move all my discussion points to the Prince Phillip article.

Seventh in line

The article states that the Earl of Wessex is seventh in line to the position of Head of the Commonwealth. However, as the article on that subject itself states that "there is no agreement concerning whether the office will pass to her heir along with her other offices" then this implies that there is no order of succession to that position. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ephemerides (talk • contribs) 23:28, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Colin Firth

Regarding the story told in this version of the article: It's not clear to me that we should uncritically repeat the story that Edward was going to be Duke of Cambridge until he saw Shakespeare in Love and decided he wanted to be like Colin Firth. Yes, this was published in a mainstream newspaper, but in that newspaper it is attributed to an anonymous "courtier". Who knows whether that courtier is really in a position to know about Edward's inner thought processes, not to mention whether that courtier has any motivation to embarrass Edward?

Furthermore, the story is unlikely for this reason: The eventual decision was not simply that Edward would be Earl of Wessex. Rather, it was that he will eventually be Duke of Edinburgh but that that title is not yet available. It must have taken some considerable negotiation for this course of action to be agreed upon, as it depends on rather more people than simply Edward and the Queen. Furthermore Duke of Edinburgh clearly is a title that must mean much more to Edward than either Cambridge or Wessex, as it allows him to follow in his father's footsteps and continue his work, something he had already begun to do.

I am willing to believe that Cambridge was Edward's top choice before it became clear that Edinburgh was available to him, and I may even believe that Wessex was suggested to him by the movie (a lesser title is necessary so that Sophie has a title for now but also so that Edward will be known exclusively as Edinburgh when he finally becomes a Duke, and it makes sense to use something long out of use since the concept of "royal earldom" is a new one). However, the idea that he dropped Cambridge in favor of Wessex because he was wowed by the movie, and that Edinburgh was somehow tacked on in consolation, simply does not pass the smell test. --BlueMoonlet (t/c) 12:34, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Commodore in Chief of the RFA

Good Afternoon,

The thumbnail preceding his mention as Commodore in Chief of the RFA is incorrect as it displays the White Ensign( RN) rather than the RFA's Blue Ensign defaced with a fouled anchor which is displayed in Wikipedia HERE I do not know how to make the correction myself.

He is also Patron of the Royal Fleet Auxiliary Association (RFAA), HERE Crissake (talk) 15:55, 30 July 2012 (UTC) Crissake (talk) 15:56, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

I made the change to the RFA icon. NDomer09 (talk) 00:59, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Paralympics

The Earl of Wessex also represented H.M. at the closing of the Paralympics. 74.69.8.195 (talk) 11:51, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Duke of Edinburgh

Quiote" the Earl of Wessex would be created Duke of Edinburgh when that dukedom, held by Edward's father since 1947, reverts to the Crown,[2][19] which can happen only after both of his parents have died (see here for details)."

How so? Why does his mother have to die before he can inherit the title? Also the see here for details link doesn't explain this assertion. 121.73.7.84 (talk) 10:47, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

His mother doesn't have to die for him to inherit the title. In fact, the only way he can inherit the title is if both his brothers and both his fraternal nephews (along with the possible fraternal grandnephew) die during his mother's life. Since that isn't likely to happen and isn't considered as a solution for obvious reasons, it was announced that Edward would created Duke of Edinburgh once the current creation reverts to the Crown. That can only happen if the reigning monarch inherits the title or if the holder of the title becomes monarch, i.e. only when both Philip and Elizabeth are dead. For example, Philip dies and Charles becomes Duke of Edinburgh, then Elizabeth dies and Charles becomes king - at that point, Edward can be created Duke of Edinburgh. Surtsicna (talk) 16:04, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Key to this is the term "to merge with (or in) the crown" – explained at hereditary peer. DBD 21:54, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
I understand how titles work. My point is why is the article giving false information? 121.73.7.84 (talk) 09:32, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
As to the question "Why does his mother have to die before he can inherit the title?" you are assuming that he will INHERIT the title. He MIGHT, if there's some major die-off of Royal males, but that is not what anyone has contemplated, which is that he's not going to INHERIT his father's Dukedom of Edinburgh (which is the 3rd Creation of that Dukedom). He's going to be CREATED a Duke, the FIRST Duke of Edinburgh of the FOURTH Creation, when his father's Dukedom goes EXTINCT. No inheriting, in this most likely scenario. One of MANY sequences of evens that lead to the Third Dukedom of Edinburgh going extinct is (a) Philip dies, Charles becomes 2nd Duke of Edinburgh (3rd Creation), and (b) Elizabeth dies, Charles becomes King, and the 3rd Creation of the Dukedom of Edinburgh goes extinct instantly, because nobody can be King and a noble at the same time. So Charles is King, and nobody is Duke of Edinburgh. Then Charles creates his brother Edward as the FIRST Duke of Edinburgh of the FOURTH Creation. Now, if there's a tragic Royal male die-off yes Edward could become 2nd Duke of Edinburgh of the 3rd Creation, but what is ANTICIPATED is that the 3rd Dukedom will get kaboshed by colliding with the Crown. That is what makes it very likely (but not inevitable) that Edward will be the First Duke of Edinburgh of the Fourth Creation at some point. But the Dukedom and the Crown can't collide at all as long as Elizabeth is alive, or as long as Philip is alive. They both have to die, and start their titles moving down the line of their descendants, before the titles can land on the same person and kill off the 3rd Dukedom. That's why his mother has to die in the MOST LIKELY scenario by which he becomes a Duke of Edinburgh (which will be First Duke of Fourth Creation of that Dukedom). As long as she's alive the Crown's going to stay with her, and can't wipe out the 3rd Dukedom, and as long as Philip is alive the 3rd Dukedom is going to stay with him, and can't be wiped out by colliding with the Crown.2603:7000:9906:A91C:1C64:8308:33BC:E2D6 (talk) 16:17, 10 March 2021 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson

religiosity

I've read in several articles that Edward is very religious. He rarely performs engagements on Sundays and one ex-girlfriend broke up with him because he was too religious for her. 74.69.11.229 (talk) 17:51, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Highland uniform

I'm assuming the extravagant military uniform worn by HRH at the 2013 Queen's Birthday Parade was that of the London Scottish? Opera hat (talk) 11:35, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Duke v. Earl

I get the distinct impression from the article (and I could certainly be mistaken in it) that Prince Edward's creation as an Earl rather than a Duke was in some way a slight or a sign of some sort of royal displeasure with him. As a clueless Yank, I haven't got any idea as to how these sorts of things work, so could the discussion of his creation be expanded a bit so as to explain why he's an Earl and not a Duke, as his siblings are? I suppose my question boils down to 'why's Edward the odd man out?' Thanks and regards. 72.0.15.8 (talk) 15:57, 29 July 2013 (UTC) Far from it actually. Edward is believed to be the favorite of both the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh and his wife Sophie is an intimate of the Queen (they ride in Windsor Great Park, swap books on military history and dine together frequently). In addition his children Louise and James are favored grandchildren of the Queen and the Duke. The earldom is due to Edward favoring a lower profile. Some sources say he was to be made Duke of Cambridge on his marriage but he watched "Shakespeare in Love" and became intrigued by the Earl of Wessex character. Wessex itself was a historical kingdom but there is currently no such place in Britain. 74.69.9.224 (talk) 15:10, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Actually, Edward's Earldom isn't because of his preference for a lower profiling. Rather, it's intended that once both of his parents are dead and Charles is king, Edward will be created Duke of Edinburgh. He was given a lower title for now so that he can be raised up later on, once his father's title is available. Psunshine87 (talk) 20:29, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Children's Titles

When Prince Edward becomes Duke of Edinburgh, will his children be known then as "HRH Prince/Princess xxx of Edinburgh" ? 161.24.19.112 (talk) 19:24, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Actually, His Royal Highness's children may be a prince and a princess of the United Kingdom, and therefore, may have been named His Royal Highness the Prince James of Wessex and Her Royal Highness the Princess Louise of Wessex. However, Their Royal Highnesses the Earl and Countess of Wessex decided that their childern will have the style of childern of an Earl and not as grandchildern of the Queen. This is why the person who may be the Princess Louise of Wessex is instead Lady Louise Windsor and the person who may be Prince James of Wessex is instead Viscount Severn. At the moment that it pleases the monarch to name Prince Edward as a Royal Duke, maybe Prince Edward might change his mind over the titles of his childern, or, his childern will continue having the styles of childern of a Duke now. Ctjj.stevenson (talk) 15:21, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

University of Bath

So he's becoming the Chancellor of the University of Bath. Does that go under "career" or "duties" or where? I guess it's "career" since chancellors don't need to be royal? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.144.103.40 (talk) 20:24, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Dubious

The Civil List has been abolished, so the part about him receiving a part of it is out-of-date at the least. DrKay (talk) 20:55, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Post-nominals

At the beginning of the article of His Royal Highness, we see Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex KG GCVO ADC. However, we only see the British post nominals of His Royal Highness, when he is an honorary member of the Saskatchwan Order of Merit, and therefore, should his name should read Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex, KG, GCVO, SOM, ADC(P). May this be corrected, seeing that the monarchy is shared and not purely British? Ctjj.stevenson (talk) 15:50, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

"[T]he programme 'The Grand Knockout Tournament'

I recall this episode but not what editorial and/or political comment and position might have been taken. What were they? Edward's comments afterwards were inappropriate and unfortunate but the episode itself clearly did no harm to Anne's ability to do her job with keen appreciation by the public. Indeed, it may well have been wholly forgotten: the city of Regina, once the capital of the North-West Territories and then the Province of Saskatchewan recently renamed and official facility "Prince Edward Building" without comment. Masalai (talk) 08:20, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

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Succession box for earldom

Succession box for Earldom of Wessex has been added and removed couple of times. I'm in favour of including it. His earldom is hereditary and succession box illustrates that it was originally created for him and who is the heir. The box also gives information on his title. Succession box is often created, when there has been a succession or succession is or has been possible. Succession box is, for example, also created for an MP, who was the first MP for a new constituency and is still the current incumbent or when the constituency was abolished after him or her. It's similar case for a created hereditary peer, whose titles became extinct after him or who is the current incumbent.--Editor FIN (talk) 13:40, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

I disagree with the notion that something should be done simply because it is done elsewhere. We should add content for its meaning or purpose, not because other crap exists. The point of the succession box (correct me if I am wrong) is to illustrate a succession; when there is no succession, a succession box is entirely pointless. Using a succession box to point to a lack of succession is like using the death_date paramater in Template:Infobox person to say that the person is alive. Surtsicna (talk) 14:08, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
I'll ask this on the guidelines page. I comment, that it's easier for a reader to note that some person is alive elsewhere from the article than lack of some possible succession.--Editor FIN (talk) 18:33, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

British succession or not.

See discussion at Charles, Prince of Wales, concerning this article's intro. GoodDay (talk) 03:44, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

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Earl Wessex

Again why was the dual cypher of the E&C of W removed? Tjabulile (talk) 19:48, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

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University degree

Edward studied Archaeology and Anthropology for his first year at Cambridge, taking his Part 1s in it at the end of that year. He then swapped to a History degree for his second and third years, taking his Part 2s in that subject. I know because I was in the same year as him studying Arch and Anth. I know my experience doesn't count, so here's a link: https://www.upi.com/Archives/1983/09/27/Edward-the-student/7272433483200/ Interestingly Charles did exactly the same thing when he was at Cambridge, studying Arch and Anth and then swapping to History. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.151.166.210 (talk) 10:02, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

I have also removed his MA from the honorary degrees section, since he completed an undergraduate course he received an 'ordinary' MA. for confirmation, he is not listed on Cambridge's list of recipients of honorary degrees Pi (Talk to me!) 17:21, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Edinburgh and HRH/Prince

This is answering several comments so I'm putting it in afresh. As to their children being HRH/Prince(ss), they are children of the son of a Monarch and could already use that Style of Address if their parents hadn't nixed it. As to the Dukedom of Edinburgh, the article errs when it says that Edward will become Duke of Edinburgh when his parents die. That is likely but not inevitable. In any case, there is no plan for Edward to inherit his father's title and become the Second Duke of Edinburgh of the Third Creation (although in a national tragedy in which Charles, William, George, Louis, Harry, Archie, and Andrew all die (in any order), and then Philip dies (without any of these listed males producing additional male children first), while Elizabeth and Edward remain living, yes, then in that tragedy Edward WOULD become the 2nd Duke of Edinburgh of the 3rd Creation).

But the PLAN is that when Philip's Dukedom goes EXTINCT, the person who is Monarch at that time will create Edward as the FIRST Duke of a NEWLY-CREATED Fourth Creation of the Dukedom of Edinburgh. Other than some bad tragedy, Edward isn't slated to INHERIT the Dukedom of Edinburgh. Instead, he's going to get a NEW Dukedom of Edinburgh, NOT his father's. His father's Dukedom DOES have a high likelihood of going extinct by the Crown and the Dukedom of Edinburgh falling on the same shoulders. Nobody can be both King and a Duke, so the Dukedom will die when that happens.
And yet, it's not inevitable. Suppose George grows up and has two children, first a daughter, then a son. Then Charles, William, and George die while Elizabeth is still alive. George's daughter will then be Heir Apparent to the throne, because they just changed that so that younger sons are no longer favored over older daughters. Then Philip dies, and George's SON becomes the 2nd Duke of Edinburgh of the 3rd creation. Then Elizabeth dies, and George's daughter becomes Queen. At that point the Dukedom of Edinburgh (3rd creation) is no longer exceedingly likely to go extinct by colliding with the Crown, and Edward's chance of becoming Duke of Edinburgh before he dies get rather slim.2603:7000:9906:A91C:1C64:8308:33BC:E2D6 (talk) 15:54, 10 March 2021 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson
with today's death of Phillip, this will need addressing.2600:1700:2640:A3B0:98AF:6E0D:7182:A964 (talk) 11:52, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 April 2021

Prince Edward is now Duke of Edinburgh since his father has died this morning OT369 (talk) 12:14, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

 Not done Please provide a reliable source and the exact wording that needs to be changed. DrKay (talk) 12:15, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

He definitely is not Duke of Edinburgh. That is Prince Charles, as eldest son. Once Charles is king (or William if Charles dies first - or indeed George), the Dukedom is absorbed into the crown, and can be re-issued. At that point Edward could be Duke of Edinburgh of the 4th creation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.18.172.119 (talk) 13:28, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

No, that’s not how the title Duke of Edinburgh works, it was confirmed in 1999 that Edward would succeed his father as the Duke of Edinburgh, this is why he was not previously given a Duke title. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.67.197.121 (talk) 23:40, 9 April 2021 (UTC)


To paraphrase, "No, that's not how the peerage works"; try reading the College of Arms on it. https://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/news-grants/news/item/187-hrh-the-duke-of-edinburgh. They are - after all - in charge of the peerage
These peerages are hereditary and on the death of His Royal Highness have passed to his eldest son, HRH The Prince of Wales. In the event of the Prince of Wales or any subsequent holder of these titles succeeding to the Crown, these titles and all others held will merge with the Crown
or indeed the actual letters patent https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/38128/page/5495
Now, that's not to say the Royal Family don't have some other plans for it....but at the moment, Edward will only become DoE if the preceding 6 heirs die before him. Charles could refuse to elevate Edward to the Dukedom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.18.172.119 (talk) 07:16, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 April 2021 (2)

Edit to reflect the Dukedom of Edinburgh has passed to him on his father’s death. 2600:100C:B24D:2BFB:C9D1:2181:1122:A9E2 (talk) 15:50, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

 Not done See above. DrKay (talk) 15:59, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Duke of Edinburgh

Edward is now the de facto Duke of Edinburgh and will eventually be officially sworn in as such, is it time to change the page to reflect his new title or will we wait until he has officially been granted the title. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.67.197.121 (talk) 23:38, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

He’s not, he won’t, it’s not, so we will. 89.159.128.49 (talk) 11:08, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Marriage and children section unclear

What does this sentence mean? Is he divorced? Are his brothers divorced? Please clarify the current wording:

This was a departure from the weddings of his elder brothers, which were large, formal events at Westminster Abbey or St Paul's Cathedral, and had ended in divorce. Skywriter (talk) 12:29, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

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