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Banned in New Zealand

The TV series is not banned in New Zealand. The IMDB cetificate entry (the only offered evidence for this claim) is inaccurate. In New Zealand, broadcasters assign ratings to television programmes under the Broadcasting Act 1989. The Classification Office has no power to decide broadcast ratings. Thus, other than the DVD/VHS release of the series (which I'm investigating with the classification office), broadcasts are not subject to censorship, and certainly not subject to banning. In fact, I can clearly remember when the first series was broadcast. There was controversy, to be sure, but any withdrawl was up to the broadcaster (in this case, I think, TVNZ), and not to any sort of banning. I'd welcome discussion of this issue - if any isn't forthcoming I'll make the removal of this factoid. --Dom 14:35, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Be bold and change it yourself. Only Kiwis would know anything about this, anyway, and I don't know of the number of Kiwi PR fans. Ryūlóng 20:30, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I was just waiting on a reply from the classification office. They had this to say: "the BSA [Broadcasting Standards Authority] has no authority to ban the broadcast of a programme." and also "There are numerous videos and DVDs of Might Morphin Power Rangers episodes available in New Zealand. Most are rated PG, meaning they are unrestricted but parental guidance is required for younger viewers. It is legal for anyone to possess and view these videos or DVDs." So, pretty well debunked. --Dom 00:02, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Voltron Similarities

I'm surprised that there hasn't been any mention to the similarities from Voltrons, sure the costumes and characters are different. But the way the power ranger's vehicles came together to form one big being should have someone mentioning that. I know back when it first came out when I was a child watching it, the first thing I thought of was that this was a Voltron rip off; even the form of the vehicles put together (Don't know the name of it) looked very similar to that of Voltrons. Granted I haven't seen anything new cause I'm older now but I believe there are a few things that are related between the two.

Considering that it's adapted from the same source that Voltron was adapted from (i.e. Japan), then there's no real reason to mention it, is there? - DrachenFyre > YOU! 19:26, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

And on top of that, PR's source material, Super Sentai, did the "combining mecha" thing several years before Go Lion even came out (meaning it's not a rip-off), and both shows were originally made by Toei anyways. I agree that the similarities are blatant, but mentioning the fact is probably a little redundant. Arrow 20:04, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

I wrote the original message above, thanks for the clearing that up. I never heard of Super Sentai, so that's why I thought it was a Voltron rip-off. I didn't know that there was another show before Voltrons that used the same type of combining mecha, otherwise I would have just stated that there were similarities between all of them.

Next time, please read important articles like Super Sentai next time before making a comment.. I understand not reading rovang's guide, cuz it's a link, but the Super Sentai link is ginormous and ties with every Ranger series x 2.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.205.216.240 (talk) 08:25, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Inappropriate links

Here are all the crufty links. Please get the info you need from them, list the links you cite as sources in the references section and delete the res. See WP:EL, and WP:NOT, fansites, forums, and cruft need not apply. "===Fan websites===

• Power Rangers Central
• Rovang.org's Power Rangers Timeline
• Rovang.org's Writers Guide To The Power Rangers Universe
• Naks Power Rangers
• GrnRngr.com
• Power Rangers Online
• Galaxy of Chaos, a Power Rangers Wiki
• Power Rangers On Air Central
• Power Rangers Information Archive
• The Ranger Files
• Jen's Power Rangers Online V2
• Fuñaroverse

Message Boards

• Rangerboard
• Ranger-Power
• Fuñaroboard"

L0b0t 23:34, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Intro Pic

I was wondering why the box to the side with the series directory info was not a field that I can edit. I have a picture that would work perfectly as the PR pic at the top. Image: General_PR_Logo.jpg works just right... it is an actual PR logo with the appropriate art... don't you think so?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by RabidPanda V (talk • contribs) .

We could use that, but that's a fair use logo and right now the intro pic is being used in a template.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:59, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Is there a way to edit the template? If not, why is it this way... just vandalism protection? RabidPanda V 04:42, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

At Wikipedia:Fair use it states that fair use images (such as the logo) cannot be used in any other namespace other than the main article space. We cannot put the logo into {{Power Rangers 2}} for copyright reasons.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 04:58, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

And yet you've placed logos on all of the other pages, no?RangerKing 14:40, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

I aggree. I have an image on imageshack totally ready to upload so we can get a better logo in the infobox for the main article on Power Rangers. It is low resolution in keeping with Wikipedia's fair use aggreements, copyrighted material and what not. So if you could respond Ryulong in a fast and fair manner, I'm sure that RabidPanda V, RangerKing, me, Nsmith4658 and a whole lot of other Wikipedians would appreciate it. Thank you. スミス ナサニアル 04:27, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

The issue was with the fair use image in the template. Not what image to use.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 04:29, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Trivia Sections

These trivia sections really are too long. They need to be dispersed throughout the articles or deleted all together. Such as in terms of the S.P.D. page the reference to alien rangers, rangers promoted to new colors, etc. It should be actual trivia, not every little thing.RangerKing 14:45, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

The trivia sections actually need to be turned into paragraphs rather than bulletted lists. Check out the other articles for what I mean.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:44, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

I think the Bruce Kalish criticism should be removed- I actually bothered to check the Nielsen Ratings and have seen ratings have not significantly increased/decreased during his arrival nor do I think a common PR viewer outside of the forums would care who was running the show.

I also think PR/Toku Snob should be more diversified- a person from another country who lost Sentai because Power Rangers came along is rightfully pissed off like the Bat-Embargo did to DCAU. I have no idea the size of the group, but I also ponder why someone would hate a Sentai vs another Sentai or hate a PR vs another PR or like a Sentai AND its PR counterpart..

I also like more production notes and think there should be easy accesibilty to it. I also think this is another big thing in the PR/Toku Snob article. Disney vs Saban. Kalish vs Sloan, etc.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.205.216.240 (talk) 08:29, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Saban's Power Rangers

As of November 13, the Saban-era logo to the page has been added.70.185.125.101 08:17, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Duh. I did it.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 08:33, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

This logo is still used by Disney, minus the Saban stamp on it. This is just a generic logo.RangerKing 01:41, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Trivia

I will be editing the trivia sections of each Power Rangers page. Please do not restore them completely and trust my judgement. If you believe something should be restored, restore that one or few things only and not the entire thing. Thank you. RangerKing 00:55, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

UPDATE - I will continue updating the rest of the pages soon. I have edited the trivia sections up to Lightspeed and began working on Time Force.RangerKing 01:47, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Series vs Season

I believe that Mighty Morphin needs to be divided into three seperate sections. Also, everything needs to be fixed from "series" to "season". I know that Disney, at least from what I can read, uses incarnations instead of seasons, but what they are hinting at is seasons. Saban also used to use seasons and nothing else. Disney has referred to certain seasons as the X incarnation of the series. In that number, Mighty Morphin was considered as three seperate entities and not one singular. Also, going on official accounts, Mighty Morphin' Alien Rangers needs to be merged into season three.RangerKing 14:51, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Allow me to interject here as I have had similar concerns in the past. MMPR, after much debate, has been deemed all one incarnation not only for the sake of the name remaining the same, but as well as the general retention of characters, theme and storylines. I, too share your disdain about the Alien Rangers mini-series being considered a full-blown season. However, to satisfy this issue, we can consider it to be a mini-series, a set of episodes (like "Green With Evil") within the context of season 3. I believe that the wording of the AR page actually alludes to this, despite still being widely used as a 4th season of MMPR. We are technically trying to seperate incarnations and not seasons, which aren't exactly one in the same due to the lengthy run of MMPR. On the topic of the MMAR page, it is considered a storyline and because the MMPR page is already so large (a topic that has already been discussed and resolved to a degree), MMAR will remain as its own page, much like certain multi-part episodes of the show have as well. Just read around a little and you'll find that most of the wording on the pages refelct concern from users such as ourselves, but cannot completely quell the issue because of the massive overhaul and the time it would take to do something of that nature. Best Regards, RabidPanda V 15:03, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Those episodes are more like "key episodes" as the field they appear in says. Now if how Ryulong edits and has presented these pages as some of the information on them can only be added if it has been released from Disney and is official, wouldn't the classification for them be treated in the same way? It be like picking favorites in terms of what you and are not going to do because that's they way you like it. Here is an portion of a press release released in 2004 regarding S.P.D. "Production has begun on the 13th edition of the world's most popular kids' action/adventure franchise, "Power Rangers," and this season". Each year it is considered that there was 13 seasons at the time of S.P.D. That clearly is shown with "13th edition" and also "season" is used as well. Now of course this is from S.P.D. because I couldn't find a Mystic Force or "Drive Force" press release. But the link is here: http://web.archive.org/web/20050310103637/www.powerrangers-info.com/Publicity-News-2004-PRSPDOPR.html RangerKing 15:44, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes, S.P.D. is the 13th season of the Power Rangers metaseries. But it is the 12th series of Power Rangers.

List compressed into a hidden pulldown

1. Mighty Morphin
2. Alien Rangers
3. Zeo
4. Turbo
5. In Space
6. Lost Galaxy
7. Lightspeed Rescue
8. Time Force
9. Wild Force
10. Ninja Storm
11. Dino Thunder
12. S.P.D.
13. Mystic Force
14. Operation Overdrive

Now, for the seasons, we have:

1. Mighty Morphin 1
2. Mighty Morphin 2
3. Mighty Morphin 3/Alien Rangers
4. Zeo
5. Turbo
6. In Space
7. Lost Galaxy
8. Lightspeed Rescue
9. Time Force
10. Wild Force
11. Ninja Storm
12. Dino Thunder
13. S.P.D.
14. Mystic Force
15. Operation Overdrive

Each article on Wikipedia describes a different series within the metaseries. We may have 3 pages for the monsters in MMPR, but 3 pages for MMPR the series is a bit overkill, as it is essentially the same storyline, the same villains throughout all of them, and the same suits. And I've explained the numbers thing on at least two user talks, and its about time it's mentioned here.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 20:52, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

I think you have a warped sense of what is and isn't a season in Power Rangers. Mighty Morphin' Alien Rangers is like sub group within a subgroup.RangerKing 02:40, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

They're included in the list of series, not the list of seasons.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 02:49, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Yet you are so Gung-Ho on only adding things it it was officially said by Disney or onscreen that you won't let certain things past, but you won't do what has been said from the source itself.RangerKing 02:59, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, the source has either counted wrong or is using a strange numbering system. S.P.D. is the twelfth show, the thirteenth season. Zeo was the third show, fourth season. Overdrive is the 14th show, 15th season, 15th anniversary. Boukenger is the 30th show, technically 31st anniversary based on years (although Sentai skipped 1978, so it sorta makes more sense).—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:03, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

But this isn't Sentai. You can't use what Sentai does to rule what the Power Rangers articles will or will not be. I don't care if they are using an unknown Martian numbering system for X, Y, and Z; if you are so worried about what is official you use it no matter how wrong you may think it is. It's like diplomacy. If your government said that country X is a hellhole, then the official stance of that government is that country X is a hellhole, no matter how much the actual people may disagree.RangerKing 23:44, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

And you know what, that's not what this is about. We are not splitting up MMPR into three articles based on the fact that there are three seasons for that series. The numbering is a bit off, but that's not a real problem. If we eliminate the numbers entirely, and just note the two anniversary years (WF and OO), how does that sound?—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 23:47, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

It's also about the termonology being used, which numbers don't really matter, and the inclusion of "Mighty Morphin' Alien Rangers" underneath "Television Series".RangerKing 00:29, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Alien Rangers is a separate entity from MMPR. It was treated as such by means of the theme song and whatnot, and it has its own team. Therefore, it gets its own article. It was a miniseries, but miniseries get their own articles on Wikipedia. It is even explicitly stated that Alien Rangers was a miniseries on its article.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 00:34, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

However, going on what another wiki article itself says: "Very rarely, a multi-part episode within a longer running TV show may also be called a "mini-series", and with a few shows, a mini-series became the effective pilot episode of a longer production run". If that's what you are saying then EVERY multipart episode needs it own article.RangerKing 00:58, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Alien Rangers had its own theme song. This is what makes it different from Green with Evil or Mystic Fate. Hmm. Those are muliparters with their own pages, are they not?—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 01:18, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Yet look at what is missing. Doomsday, White Light and many other multipart important episodes. Just having a theme song doesn't mean anything. They were still season three credits and none of the alien ranger actors were actually credited in the main credits. The only difference was the logo, a few words in the song, and a few different scenes in the sequence.RangerKing 02:57, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, maybe you should make articles for those episodes instead of arguing with me as to why there are 13 series and one miniseries yet 15 seasons.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 02:59, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

I think RangerKing got mad lost there too... But he does bring a point.. How do we know which episodes should be considered a key episode & not? We're missing a bunch of first & final episodes of seasons. Also, is Alien Rnagers considered a different series? Green with Evil I still consider the longest, cuz the title of the episodes are "Green with Evil: Part" 1,2,3,4,5, while every other season has had episodes with different episode names... Thank you for your time. 22:19, 21 November 2006

Well, there is no order. Disney goes off the seasons. And another editor elsewhere has pointed out that our 15th anniversary is 14 years after the premiere. It's all way too confusing, which is why I have removed the numbers from all of the articles except for the 10th and 15th anniversary series.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:40, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

It's not too confusing. What happened is that the first three seasons didn't air like they did starting with Zeo (Feb. through November). The first season started out in August 93 and ran until May 94. The second ran from August 94 to May 95. The third ran from September 95 to February 96. Some way, some how it screwed up the actual number of years that the show has been on vs. the number of seasons there are. I think it's only confusing to the "simple minded" who can't take the seasonal number and subtract one. But regardless, I'm still trying to talk about getting the change from series to the offically recognized seasons.RangerKing 03:51, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

I've already removed any mention of series/season numbers from the articles. What won't be happening is a subdivision of MMPR into three separate pages. It's just not that necessary.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:56, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

You're still not getting what I am trying to see. I think I need to draw a picture. I'm talking about changing any wording from series to season. Not only that, but to merge the Mighty Morphin Alien Rangers with the appropriate article.RangerKing 12:52, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

That is not really useful, as they are different series, all within one larger franchise. The only thing that ties them together is "Power Rangers," and Alien Rangers was its own mini-series and that has its own article for that reason. Several other story-arcs that can be construed as miniseries also have articles of their own, and those that don't, maybe you should get to working on.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 18:17, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes they are a part of a much larger franchise, but both Disney and BanDai use a term that is blant such as "season" or another term which would other be "season". And as if me making articles would really matter as you would be likely delete them or hound them for not being of "acceptable quality". Oh and by the way, buy labeling the Wild Force and Operation Overdrive seasons as anniversary being anniversary events, you are identifying them as seasons. If they were series then Wild Force would be 8th series and Operation Overdrive would be the 13th. If you were to use years Wild Force would be the ninth and Operation Overdrive would be fourteenth. No matter how you try to bend into your liking, they would not qualify for aniversary status unless they were the tenth and fifthteenth in a season and the only way for that would be as seasons.RangerKing 18:46, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

You know what? I'm doing the best I fucking can here. Right now, the various pages list series, seasons, and god knows whatelse. Wild Force was a 10th anniversary and Overdrive is the 15th anniversary in some numbering system that we are not including in the articles because it gets too damn confusing.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:19, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

But if you label them as such anniversaries you are endorsing the same numbering system that you seem to be the only one who finds it confusing. Just give up and help me change everything from series to seasons. It's not that confusing. Each title is one season except for Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers which is three.RangerKing 22:36, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

But it's not that simple, because you are purposely omitting Alien Rangers which was notable in its own right, and there is no knowledge of whether or not they are series or seasons. Disney stated that its a theme in the press release for Overdrive, and that link lists S.P.D. as an installment.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:39, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

But all indications show that what they are referring to is infact seasons as they are not treating Mighty Morphin' as one entity but as three seperate ones.RangerKing 23:13, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

But it is one single television show that ran for three years (give or take).—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 23:15, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

However that's the official stance on it. If they said that the entire series never existed and all 15 seasons never happened, than that's the official stance and that's the truth.RangerKing 00:33, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

There is no immediate need to split Mighty Morphin Power Rangers into three separate articles because there were three seasons. The Simpsons is eighteen seasons long, but there's only one page on it as a series. There may be multiple pages about episode lists, but that is the only time such splitting should be done. Every other "season" of Power Rangers has had a different title and is treated as a separate series in many websites, except for say TV.com which lumps them all together as one. S.P.D. was the 13th season and incarnation if you say that MMPR (with MMAR) was 3 separate incarnations, which it certainly was not.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 00:44, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I could've sworn I could care less about those three seasons and you keep missing the freakin' point. I have been fucking saying that the show is a series, each year is a season. They are not individual series. Maybe you've just watched Sentai too long, but you're just inept at being able to figure out, to take the hint that the show itself is singular not plural. Promos, press releases, and other things have referred to things that either blantly say season or something that is clearly meant as seasons. I don't see any websites that treat each as an actual series other than IMDb which is because, I have no idea really. Any other website I see that has them seperate is because it's easier to catalogue and present the information and they should be seperate. But because they are seperate that doesn't mean that they are not a part of the same series. Power Rangers is a series. Get used to it. That's the official way and if you can't handle the official way you don't need to edit this pages. You also don't have any correspondence with the fandom as far as I know other than going to Ranger Board once and being basically expelled from it. I don't have no reason to believe that you are fit to edit these pages anymore if you cannot gain the simple concept of seasons and not series. The only people who actually believe that these are series and not seasons are people who are from the UK where each season is called a series and is the exactly opposite of what it is here.RangerKing 01:58, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Power Rangers is a franchise, or meta-series. Each year (more or less) a new television show and toy line is released by Disney and Bandai. Often, these have little to nothing to do with the previous show and toyline that were also Power Rangers, except for in the case of the team-up episode. Each of these shows takes up a season of programming (more or less), but they are single series within a larger set of series. After Power Rangers in Space there was no continuing storyline. However, each year starting with Power Rangers: Zeo there was a new opening theme song, new suits, new Zords, new villains, new everything. The characters also changed more. These are new television series, just like there are new Doctor Who series or new James Bond films. For Power Rangers, there have been 15 seasons of the series, but this is divided into separate series. MMPR was 1 series, 3 seasons. Each one following that is 1 series, 1 season up to PROO which is the 13th series (14th if you count MMAR), 15th season, 14th anniversary through some twist of fate. I have been watching Power Rangers longer than I have any Sentai. I barely knew what Sentai was until a few years ago. However, your statements will not force me from editting the articles on Power Rangers or Super Sentai, and all of the above is my reasoning as to why we have them listed as series or at least separate incarnations.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 02:55, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Yay. If you're going to go all personal attack-y, at least make it make sense. According to his user page, Ryulong is from New York, is attending college in Miami, and uses "American English." He is not British in any way, so your point about Brits and seasons/series is completely lost on everybody. Also, what the hell does his activites on Rangerboard have anything to do with here? You're just looking for red herrings here. Fandom is completely irrelevent here: poorly sourced and not fact-checked and not verifiable. A dozen websites might list one thing, but hey, that can be wrong. See Urban legend bias: things can be reported wrong, and since entered popular usage, which means that using a search engine to try to prove a point (in this case, series vs. season) doesn't hold up very well. You don't have any power whatsoever to compel people to stop editing articles, and for the record I favor Ryulong's interpretation of a season vs. series. Hbdragon88 06:07, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I wasn't saying that he's from the UK, I'm saying that those are who I expect people to say series instead of season, other than the ones who don't know what they're talking about. But ha, imagine this though. The same person who swears that each season is really a series of its own has not regarded the two seasons of BeetleBorgs as two series. For all of the reasons here, they are not treated as two seperate series in these articles. They had seperate storylines, title cards, costumes, theme songs, and everything else which he has defined as being a reason why each are a seperate season.RangerKing 14:19, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

But you know what? I'm done with this, I'm actually in the process of rebuilding my info website and it will actually be accurate and provide the correct information. I could care less if the pages became fanfiction.RangerKing 14:29, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

We could split the article on Beetleborgs into two pages, but there is not enough information on either series by itself to warrant a need for such a split into one for Big Bad Beetleborgs and one for Beetleborgs Metallix. You have your own website, and you can do what you want with it there, but Wikipedia is used by everyone in the English speaking world, and it's a group effort to decide what is right and what is wrong at times.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 18:53, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

However, what a group may think is right and what is wrong is not always correct. I could go into all kinds of cultural and historical allusions, but I won't. But this website does not have the full backing of a lot of people within the Power Rangers fandom who know their stuff, such as myself, and therefore there is no way that these articles could ever prove to be succesful.RangerKing 19:17, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

There are plenty of users here who know enough collectively to get these articles to where they need to be. An encyclopedia does not need to mention that Ron Wasserman's theme song for Mystic Force was rejected or that in some episode a guy was an extra and he later murdered someone. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a fan site. We have guidelines that we go by, and whether or not there is a season for this or a series for that is not really that important in the end. So long as it is an article that someone who knows nothing about the subject can learn something new. Go hit a random page and tell me if what you find didn't teach you something.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 19:35, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Ron Wasserman and Skylar Deleon doesn't matter, but there aren't many people in my opinion who know the history of the show as aired.RangerKing 22:22, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

How is Disney's numbering confusing? All they are counting is this: 1) MMPRs1 -- 2) MMPRs2 -- 3) MMPRs3 -- 4) Zeo -- 5) Turbo -- 6) Space -- 7) Lost Galaxy -- 8) Lightspeed Rescue -- 9) Timeforce -- 10) Wild Force -- 11) Ninja Storm -- 12) Dino Thunder -- 13) SPD -- 14) Mystic Force -- 15) Operation Overdrive. That's it. As far as Disney's concerned, this is the same show that started with MMPRs1. The 15th season of a show, regardless of what month it started and what the title is, is the 15th Anniversary. You guys are making it far more complicated than it really is. Alien Rangers is a part of Season 3. Sure it may have a different intro, but nearly every single Power Ranger show changes its intro after the team is altered. Green Ranger Tommy, second season power transfer, White Ranger Tommy, Gold Ranger Jason, Kat, Turbo power transfer, Zhane, Mike as Magna, Karone as pink, Eric, Merrick, Blake and Hunter, Cam as ranger, Trent, Doggie as ranger, and Dageron. Are those ALL different series? No. It's just showing that, at that point in the series, the show is slightly different. Alien Rangers is nothing more. DeathWeed 05:14, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

In popular culture

I have removed this section from the article because it is just collecting a lot of non-notable pieces of trivia about every other series that mentions Power Rangers in a single episode.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 06:22, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

I have once again removed this section, for the exact same reasons. JPG-GR 06:24, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Propositions

Instead of using the terms season or series, which has no doubt caused dispute, I propose that the term "installment" to be used. I also propose that all Ranger characters receive their own pages.RangerKing 20:14, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Installment is a good compromise, however not every character needs his or her own page. List pages like Mystic Force Power Rangers or S.P.D. Power Rangers are good for characters with very little history.—Řÿūłóñģ (竜龍) 21:49, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Well installment seems to be middle of the road and anyone can take it for what it's worth. I understand some of the pages don't need them, however I did notice that some of the pages needs to have the new table placed into them and I'm not sure how to do that. RangerKing01:21, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

The character infobox? Yeah, that's got to be implimented across several pages. However, not all characters really need pages. Does Bridge need his own article? Or Boom (he might, but that's besides the point)—Řÿūłóñģ (竜龍) 01:21, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

No not the info box but the box at the bottom of each page, some of the character pages do not have the current navigation box at the bottom of them.RangerKing 22:48, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

...You mean {{Power Rangers characters}}? It was decided on its talk page that not every character with a page gets a link. Just the main teams and any extra characters that qualify.—Řÿūłóñģ (竜龍) 22:51, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Regardless what was decided upon, it's really wrong. All of what is there is post-Zordon. If you want to do it some way, do it Zordon and post Zordon or Saban (MMPR-PRTF) and Disney (PRWF-PROO).RangerKing 01:54, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Power Rangers Generations

I didn't want to go ahead and have the article deleted, since it actually has some content this time around, but it's really not necessary, and isn't even all that accurate at this point. JPG-GR 06:58, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Meh, I've re-redirected it to this article. There was an ancient AFD that stated it was to be redirected.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 08:20, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Power Rangers: Cosmic Rage

I've not been keeping up on PR news for a while, but Power Rangers: Cosmic Rage didn't get any Google hits. I've prodded the article, but I thought I'd run it by the experts. NickelShoe (Talk) 04:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Pure bullshit. It's even a copy of Power Rangers: Lightspeed Rescue.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 08:05, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Animated Series

Straight from Ron Wasserman on Rangerboard: "Thanks. I've just been so slammed schedule wise. Add a (nearly 3 year old) boy to that and almost all free time is gone. All worth it though.

BTW - (you guys probably already know this) There is going to be a new animated version of Power Rangers. Friend of mine is doing the sound efx on the 2 minute promo and said it looks amazing. Hopefully I'll hear from somebody on that project.

Ron" HAVortexDude 02:03, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Unless we have something other than Ron's word, we can't really mention it without a reliable secondary source.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:07, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Please remove bullshit

In "variation between series", there is a following passage:

"No two Power Rangers series are alike, and aside from a Ranger of each primary color, almost every aspect of the show can potentially be changed "

I'm not even going to debunk this. Just kill it, please.--132.69.234.73 22:37, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

How is it "bullshit"?—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:58, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

While I wouldn't use that strong of a word, unless a series has a notable characteristic unique to ONLY itself, I find those sections a waste of space. *shrug* JPG-GR 01:53, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia defines "bullshit" as (among others) "ludicrously false representations". A perfect hit. How can two different series of PR be soo different if there is a template for a "typical episode" elsewhere in the article? Now, it was not my intent to start a flame war and/or troll the place. It just, ahem, annoyed me when I saw this passage. Let's just settle for original research and call it a day. --132.69.234.73 19:29, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

I created "Variations Between Series" last year as a way of curbing the unnecessary lists and trivia entries ("Alien Rangers was the first series to have a male Yellow Ranger," et al). Refer to "Enough Lists Already!" in the archived Talk page. XPeeple 16:59, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Vague Trivia

"Red, Blue, and Yellow are the only colors that have been a part of every Power Rangers team." This is true for all American power ranger series, but not all japanese power ranger series, so I changed it to "Red, Blue, and Yellow are the only colors that have been a part of every American Power Rangers team." felinoel 13:45, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Since this page is about the American show and not its source material, I don't quite see why that is an issue. Arrow 17:34, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

There are no Japanese Power Rangers series. That's called something entirely different.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:42, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Mario

The discussion we're having in Talk:Super Sentai, has evolved to a different level, so it deserves mention here. Here, the trivia section allows for a more informative explanation of Power Rangers' relation to the Axem Rangers, and I added citations to back up the relation. The next step to enhance the quality of the article is to add Screen volcanoaxem-new.png. Before we add it, can we discuss it? Thank you. Taric25 02:09, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Ryūlóng, at least give people a chance to discuss it and see what the image looks like. This discussion is different from the one in Super Sentai, because the trivia section allows for more explanation. Taric25 19:34, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't think that such "trivia" has no place on the page or the section.RangerKing 15:31, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Ok, if not the image, can we at least include the text? Here's what I wrote.

In Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars, the five soldiers who use matching–color axes (オノ, ono, 斧 literally "axe"), the Axem Rangers (カジオー戦隊オノレンジャー, Kajiō Sentai Onorenjā, literally "Smithy Squadron Axerangers") imitating the naming scheme for Super Sentai (スーパー戦隊, Sūpā Sentai, literally "Super Squadron") character teams, and the Blade, reference the television programs' Power Rangers and Zords of Power Rangers. Despite their power, Mario's party soon defeates them, and thus, they are forced to use the Blade's "Breaker Beam", refrencing the Power Rangers' "Power Blaster".

GAH! FAIR USE IMAGES IN THE TALK SPACE—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 20:47, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

I just showed the image so people can see how it looks. It's not a voiolation of fair use to critisize an fair use image of a non–substantial or most important part of the total work without the intention to supercede the original. If you prefer, we can link to it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Screen_volcanoaxem-new.png.

Beast Fist

I think it should be known that a new website has been found that leads straight to the Power Rangers page on the Jetix site:

• http://www.powerrangersbeastfist.com

This could possibly be the name for season 16, based off Gekiranger. I think an article should be made just in case. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.37.71.142 (talk) 00:55, 7 March 2007 (UTC).

We should not be making speculations this far into the future. We do not need an article until something official comes from Disney.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 02:29, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Especially in light of the fact that powerrangersrelichunters.com was registered this year and never used. No point in noting this kind of thing now. Once season 16 starts, then we can make a note that Beast Fist was an official working title, if it ends up not being used. Arrow 05:11, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

The A-Squad Names

I don't know who named them, but they don't have names and fan names are not official and cannot be used.RangerKing 12:31, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Trivia section deleted

I think it is sad that all of the trivia was deleted. I've always found one of the most enjoyable features Wikipedia offers is that the articles can be cross-referenced to other related information. --Teram10 02:38, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

WP:TRIV—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 04:33, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Intro Section

Can someone edit this part of the intro?

The franchise was purchased by the Walt Disney Company as a part of the buyout of what Fox Family Worldwide became ABC Family Worldwide, including what Saban Entertainment became BVS Entertainment, from News Corporation, Fox's parent company, and Haim Saban between 2001 and 2002, and the show continued to air on Fox until its Fox Kids package was dismantled in the United States.

That sentence is very hard to comprehend & its a very lengthy sentence that doesnt really make sense. I read it like 3 times, & still vaguely understand what its trying to say.208.137.139.5 21:50, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Allegations of racism/stereotyping

Anyone have any information about the old allegations of racism/stereotyping (i.e., the asian girl was the yellow ranger, the black guy was the black ranger, Kim wore pink and the smart guy was depicted as a stereotypical nerd) that circulated with the release of the original series? Should it be included in this article? the oreo 19:25, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

No, no, no.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:26, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Even so... I was surprised that no "Controversy" section exists in the main article. I seem to recall that Power Rangers was quite the target for activists believing that PR caused violence in children. JamesDMurray 00:43, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

I believe the criticism section covers this.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 00:51, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

There is no criticism section.--Tempest115 12:47, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, GET TO WORK!—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 20:54, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Power Rangers 2008

We now have two more tentative titles and Casting information. The two tentative titles are Jungle Fury and Jungle Force. Both of those redirect to the Jetix site. Also, www.screenfaces.com now has casting information for the new rangers. RJ is the mentor, Casey is the red ranger, Theo is the blue ranger, and Lily is the yellow ranger. I think now is a good time to create a page for the new season. 75.75.76.110 23:29, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Not until we have anything more definitive. OO had three names at this point last year (Drive Force, Relic Hunters, Operation Overdrive). Until there's a press release from Disney, we should wait.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 23:50, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Character names are likely to change at this point, too.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 23:52, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Even if we did create this page, what would it be called?--Tempest115 23:53, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

what's the rush. the thing won't start for another 8-9 months.Metropod 03:09, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Continued Vandalism

I don't know about the rest of you, but I am getting very tired about the constant vandalism to this page. It seems that everyone has something negative to say. I can't even think of a page that is vandalized as much as this is. We need to do something to prevent continued vandalism. It seems like it happens atleast once a week now.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Rick lay95 (talk • contribs)

Haim Saban, Shuki Levy, and Saban Entertainment get hit by the same guy. There are much more vandalized pages than this one.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 19:41, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

References

This article does not contain any specific references to reliable sources. In one of his reversion edit summary, User:Ryulong said that "everything else can be cited to the episodes or at best official toy sites" -- however, neither that nor two other articles I've put these flags on provide citations (e.g. links or even mention of) these specific episodes or websites.

In addition, it appears to contain original research, particularly in the "What is a PR" section and "plot sequence" -- from what published source are these definitions/descriptions derived? In what specific episode or movie is this information emphatically stated? If you can't point to one, then it is original research.

Ryulong mentioned on his talk page that a Wikiproject "will work on" adding references -- emphasis added by me. I don't see a plausible basis to remove those tags that indicate references aren't yet here. These tags are there to help articles and inform editors that assistance may be useful. Why hurt the articles by removing them? --EEMeltonIV 19:05, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

What is a Power Ranger?

This section seems more like a long-winded dict-def to me... and less like an encyclopaedic section. Matthew 20:02, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

How do you describe a topic without explaining aspects of it?—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 20:03, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Licensing Show reveals Title

Ray and others are at the licensing show and they said next year's title is Power Rangers Jungle Fury. Here is the thread: http://www.rangerboard.com/showthread.php?p=2374104

I know we're not allowed to add that stuff yet, but he'll be posting a logo soon, so it'll be official soon.75.75.76.110 19:20, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, depending on what we can use as a source, we can set up a short page, but the logo will still be an issue.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 20:30, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

.— How is it an issue? Both have been confirmed at the New York Licensing Show. This is tradition now. It shouldn't even be a question.

Poweranimals (竜龍) 20:30, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Why are you copying my signature, PA?—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:37, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

The fact remains that the Licensing show has been and always will be the first look at any official news on ANY TV/Movie franchise that is represented. Power Rangers was Represented, Just because you have an issue with the person or persons who provided the information FROM the show doesn't give you the right to mark it as non-relevant.Foomartini ([[User talk:Foomartini| 09:06, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Nobody said anything about it being non-relevant. The problem is it's non-citable without some sort of press release sheet we can link to on a major site, like Disney's. If some random joe walked by the article and claimed the JF images were fake, even though we know perfectly well they're real, we still wouldn't be able to prove their validity without such a cite/reference. Arrow 14:48, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Power Rangers being referenced in The Simpsons and other media

I do know that there is one episode of The Simpsons, entitled Homer Badman, references the first series in the Power Rangers franchise, Mighty Morphin Power Rangers[1], but I'm curious whether the "References to popular culture" section in this page or not. Bryan Seecrets 13:08, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Things gett to trivial to include items like that.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:24, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

How about this? "The popularity of the Power Rangers has capitulated into being referenced or parodied in popular culture." --Bryan Seecrets 07:03, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Give a textual source to support it.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 08:20, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

The Morphing Grid

Given the relvelation about the Morphing Grid in Once A Ranger, I think its importance has been greatly elevated. We now know that every single ranger team was linked to it. It should be mentioned somewhere within the Power Rangers group of articles, but I'm not sure where it should go. We don't really have enough information about it to create a whole new article, but where would it fit within another one? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rmssw (talk • contribs)

This really sounds like a lot of original research.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:12, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

"Every Ranger team" is a bit of a stretch. IIRC, there was no mention of the Morphing Grid ever again after MMPR S3, except for two refs in Dino Thunder, one in S.P.D., and this one in OO. Arrowned 23:50, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Believe me - its hard to argue with Arrowned, as he is one of the experts on Power Rangers. As for the Morphing Grid, is it a physical place, an alternate dimension, or a virtual space (as Alpha was transported there)? Once A Ranger does not elaborate on this. Ilikenwf 04:34, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

However, its not a bit of a strech to say that. Just because there's no mention of it for a while, its kind of hard to imagine that only certain teams are connected to it. Morphing Grid seems to be the thing that all rangers receive powers from.RangerKing 01:15, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Created By

I believe the created by titles should be changed to reflect that Tony Oliver helped Haim Saban and Shuki Levy develop the series.RangerKing 03:01, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

We need to use reliable sources. If they say Tony Oliver had a hand in creating it, then it goes into the article. After watching the opening credits, he's listed as a supervising producer (which is also mentioned in his bio)—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:12, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

If I'm not mistaken, at Power Morphicon he said it himself that he essentially helped to create it, he even wrote the pilot episode. Regardless, the credits never really stated who the creator was to begin with.RangerKing 16:28, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

His word still needs to be proven to be said.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 20:44, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

www.rangercast.podomatic.com and verify it yourself. I'm fairly sure its in one of those Power Morphicon coverage things because I have listened to it.RangerKing 22:57, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

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Colors table

In keeping with the Super Sentai article, I'd like to add a "Metal" category to Colors table. It seems to me that if 5 metal-based heroes in 30 years of Super Sentai is notable enough to be permitted its own category, then the Power Rangers series, which in itself has existed for half of that amount of time and has 4 metal-based Rangers, should be just as notable. If not more, for doing more in half the time. For the record the Rangers are as follows: Gold Ranger (Zeo), Silver Ranger (in Space), Titanium Ranger (Lightspeed Rescue), and most recently the Mercury Ranger (Operation Overdrive). --Venomaru 2.0 12:06, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Seconded. I think this table needs overhauling completely...it gives no indication of which colours were there from the start of the series or were additional rangers, plus the one tick in 'other' implies that there is only one additional ranger, giving an inaccurate idea of how many characters were in the series. maybe we have instead of ticks N for normal, A for additional and then list the colours of all the other rangers? any ideas? 81.137.203.168 14:25, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Video games and Merchandise?

No mention of the widely distributed videogames for every single home system of its moment and the endless merchandise it generated? Hoped to see some of that since the show mainly was a launchpad for the merchandise it wanted to sell. GingerStokes (talk) 19:07, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Most of the video games tend to be related solely to the series that they were released in conjunction with. I know that there's a Mighty Morphin Power Rangers game, and that should be mentioned in the article on that particular series. There are games for most of the other series and they should be mentioned in the other articles. The only video game that I think would be mentioned on this particular page is Power Rangers: Super Legends which covers everything.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:34, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

I have just recently put mention of the Power Rangers: Lightspeed Rescue video game on the Power Rangers Lightspeed Rescue article. I am sure it is okay. Mythdon (talk) 09:27, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Ranger color Box

Shouldn't there be a "metallic" column on the color chart like the sentai page has that would include silver & gold colored suits71.166.0.51 (talk) 19:28, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Naming is more consistent in Sentai than in Power Rangers. They've had MegaSilver, GaoSilver, and BoukenSilver while we've had Silver Space Ranger, Lunar Wolf Ranger, and Mercury Overdrive Ranger. It just does not carry over very well.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:40, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

I believe you guys removed the "Silver" and "Gold" columns because they are unofficial designations that are both that of "Other Ranger" right?. Mythdon (talk) 22:44, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Multiple allies pages

I wish to make allies pages on others series of Power Rangers (except MMPR, PRZ, PRT or PRIS). I believe it would be useful, and good. Mythdon (talk) 07:54, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

I think most of the allies pages are unnecessary and tend to just be places for plot summary. Sections on the main series articles are all that suffice in most situations.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 08:08, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

I still believe they would be excellent additions, not to mention those characters do deserve more talking about. I understand what your saying in the case of MMPR, PRZ, PRT, and PRIS. Mythdon (talk) 08:18, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

There is nothing more to say other than what's in the "Allies" sections of most of the articles for series like Lost Galaxy and onwards. Otherwise they get cluttered with unnecessary plot summary.—Ryūlóng (竜龍)

Did you forget to sign that post with a time display. Mythdon (talk) 08:23, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

One missed key stroke.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 08:26, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

I still do not understand why there should not be allies pages for PRLG-PRDT. There allies characters do need more information dedicated to them on here. Mythdon (talk) 09:25, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Power Rangers Generations mention

I believe that Power Rangers Generations should be mentioned in this article. Mythdon (talk) 08:53, 28 December 2007 (UTC)