Talk:Pot-holder

Please keep this article

There is much to write about pot-holders, enough to make an article. This is just a start. /Yvwv (talk) 14:29, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You don't need to use the "hangon" tag - prods can be contested by anyone for any reason by removing the tag. Natalie (talk) 20:37, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Duplicate sources

Hello all, I am fairly new to Wikipedia, so I personally haven't figured out how to do this yet, but if someone could merge the duplicate sources on this page, that would be wonderful. Sources 4, 6, and 7 are identical to each other, as are 8, 9, and 11; 13, 14, and 16 also need to be merged. If I do figure out how to merge sources, I will do that at a later date. ~Komet (talk) 04:58, 18 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think the Wool section needs a go-over

In the wool section it mentions wool as being able to withstand high temperatures, but twice later it says that wool has a low ignition temperature. Later it mentions an ignition temperature of 1000° Fahrenheit. My oven doesn't go that high! (Just checked, only 550° Fahrenheit.) Later the article mentions that the "char" forms a semi-liquid state. Is it actually semi-liquid, an actual semifluid, or would another descriptive term work better? I think this section needs to be gone over by someone that knows a lot about wool. -cyalknight@gmail.com 75.172.28.201 (talk) 22:32, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Conflicting information

Under style development it states "he earliest records of pot-holders in the United States stem from the early 1900s" but the image on the page is tagged "A mid-1800s abolitionist pot-holder, from the Smithsonian Museum of American History" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:8001:4547:867B:B110:CBD2:DA3:A202 (talk) 20:03, 24 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 9 November 2024

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Pot-holder → ? – "Pot-holder" with a hyphen seems to be by far the least used version. Unfortunate, both pot holder and potholder are very close in usage: Google ngrams, Google Trends (shows "pot holder" being about 50% more searched for than "potholder" in the past few years, before then they were nearly identical), 1,970 Google scholar for "pot holder" (which includes pot-holder but a quick skim finds "pot holder" far out numbers it), 1,450 Google scholar for "potholder". Dictionaries that I looked at are 5-2 in favor of "potholder": "potholder": Collins (which labels it as British), Cambridge (which labels it as "mainly US"), Oxford Learner's (Which labels it as "(North American English)", American Heritage, and Dictionary.com; while for "pot holder": M-W; OED. I'm not a huge fan of just going by dictionary but perhaps give how similar ngrams and such are, I'd lean toward "potholder" which is also the direction ngramas has started to move toward, although "pot holder" was much more common from the 1860s until the late 1960s. I also don't think there seems to be sufficient English variety affinity for either spaced or not to justify using the uncommon hyphenated version. Skynxnex (talk) 16:35, 9 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. JJP_{Mas_ter} (she/they) 03:35, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Pot holder per Merriam-Webster, but I would also be fine with potholder per the above. Cleary the version with the hyphen should not be the title. Mdewman6 (talk) 00:16, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Move to potholder. I agree that the hyphen should go. To decide between the spaced and unspaced versions, I looked to determine what variation of English is currently used in the article. The article contains "popularization" and "recognized" and "colorful" (twice) and "colored" and "colors", and I don't notice any British spellings in it, so I think it is in American English, which tends to mash things together as noted in the dictionary survey discussed above. Note that Collins also says potholder is the term in American English (not just in British English), and a majority of the discussed dictionaries favor (or favour) the unspaced version. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 00:45, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Move to either one, with a slight preference for potholder. Note that current potholder redirect got 139 hits so far this year while pot holder got 127 hits, each with one incoming wikilink, so no significant usage difference there either. Station1 (talk) 09:17, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]