Talk:Positions (song)

Cover

How do we know if the cover is the single cover or the album cover? D🐶ggy54321 ^{(let's chat!)} 16:38, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

It's in the caption of the Instagram post: "positions 📁🤍 single tomorrow night 〰️ 10.23 presave now", as well as right next to the countdown clock set for Friday. -- Lk95 16:51, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

The countdown clock doesn’t mean anything but ok, thanks! D🐶ggy54321 ^{(let's chat!)} 16:53, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Well if it ends up being the album cover, we can always just place the artwork on the album article instead. For now, this will do. Nahnah4 (talk | contribs) 17:02, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

True. D🐶ggy54321 ^{(let's chat!)} 17:03, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Parent album

Isn't it a bit loony to speculate that Grande won't include her comeback single on the album of the same name being released a week later? Well, there's this source confirming it but it's an iffy one.--NØ 17:05, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

@MaranoFan: the source is iffy, but it’s based on the same BS that the rest of the articles are based on. If you look at Talk:Positions (album)#Songs, I explain in great detail why these types of sources shouldn’t be trusted, and then proceed to give an analogy as well. If you could look at that and then re-convene, that would be great! D🐶ggy54321 ^{(let's chat!)} 17:09, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

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@Doggy54321:, Variety explicitly states that this serves as the lead single from Grande's forthcoming sixth studio album: Positions,' the first single from her upcoming sixth studio album, will debut as the clock strikes 12 this Friday morning. Kindly do not remove this reliably sourced fact again. I will have trouble maintaining a good faith attitude if you persist. Have a great day.--NØ 14:02, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Ok. D🐶ggy54321 ^{(let's chat!)} 14:20, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Genre categorization

The song has been described as R&B in multiple articles, such as articles from Idolator and Spin. Why not categorize it as R&B or at least Pop-R&B? Trqalobaid (talk) 11:16, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

R&B and trap are influences, not the actual genres. A "Pop-R&B-Trap" song is different than a pop song with R&B/trap influences. "Positions" is the latter. D🐶ggy54321 ^{(let's chat!)} 11:22, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

If you read the artcles, you'd know that they cite R&B and trap as influences; and Pop as its genre. Haven't seen a single publication called it a "R&B song". BawinV (talk) 12:57, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Change the writers please

The whole list of writers needs to be change, composers and lyricists go on the same credits, the label put them together since composing is part of the writing process, but the song wasnt written by those 6 people, the song was written only by Ariana Grande and Nija Charles, Ariana herself confirmed it on instagram, what happens is that this problem will always exists because labels does that, they give writing credits to composers, so in every credit page you'll go, this will always appear cause they get the credits from the label

Ariana Grande - Lyricist, vocal arranger/producer/engineer, she's basically one of the producers too, since producing is just composing/being the programmer and telling people what to do which she did Nija Charles - Lyricist Angelina Barrett - Composer(violins) Tommy Brown - Composer/ London On The Track - Composer Mr. Franks - Composer Moonlight Entm (talk) 02:26, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Can you please do like a little thing with writers/composers/producers apart Moonlight Entm (talk) 02:27, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Please provide sources. Tidal says that the producers are London, Mr Franks and Tommy Brown. The composers and lyricists are the same; they are who you see listed as songwriters.

• Angelina Barrett
• Tommy Brown
• Brian Vincent Bates
• Nija Charles
• Steven Franks
• Ariana Grande
• London Tyler Holmes
• James Jarvis

So, we list the composers and lyricists as songwriters, and the producers as producers. D🐶ggy54321 ^{(let's chat!)} 14:48, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

trap

"midtempo pop and R&B song with elements of trap"

Are there any other trap elements in this song besides the drums? AKK700 20:33, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

We go from reliable sources, go off what reliable critics say. Spin says "trap beat", Slant doesn't mention any genres and The Guardian mentions Pop and R&B. ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 20:48, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Assalto Perigoso into Positions (song)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The Portuguese cover version has been redirected.---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 12:52, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

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Per WP:NSONG all versions of song should be kept together. Richhoncho (talk) 08:54, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Is this a Portuguese version of positions? I'm inclined to say WP:DELETE because its not notable per WP:NSONGS and WP:COVERSONG. >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 09:06, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Wouldn't offend me if you nominated for deletion. It's pretty much bare bones with publicity information. --Richhoncho (talk) 09:27, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

I think this merge proposal can be closed as moot, because the Portuguese song was found to be non-notable at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Assalto Perigoso and there is nothing worthy of being merged. I will close the discussion. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 12:49, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.