Talk:Portmanteau (mail)

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A fact from Portmanteau (mail) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 26 October 2012 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that throughout U.S. history, different types of mail bags have been called mail pouch, mail sack, mail satchel, catcher pouch, mochila saddle mailbag (pictured), and portmanteau depending on form, function, place and time?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2012/October. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mail bag, Mail sack, Mail satchel, Mail pouch, Catcher pouch, Pony Express mochila, Portmanteau (mail).

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Worldwide view

Globize tag removed as article already shows it represents global.--Doug Coldwell ^talk 13:02, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

English merchant Thomas Witherings established mail routes throughout Europe in the 1620s. He drew up a proposition in 1635 for an English mail system centered from London in which portmanteaux (containing 2 leather bags lined with cotton) could travel to European towns with sealed bags of mail for protection against spies. The system was put into motion and some 26,000 letters mailed safely unopened between London and European towns each week. = http://www.postalheritage.org.uk/page/peoplespost-secretroom

In the nineteenth century the official portmanteau was used to carry the mail (two items: letters and newspapers) on New England stagecoaches that traveled the post roads. = http://arago.si.edu/index.asp?con=2&cmd=1&id=75517&img=1&pg=1

In the nineteenth century the portmanteau was also known as a grand sac des malles on the postal route from Fredericton, New Brunswick, to Amherstburg in Canada. = http://arago.si.edu/index.asp?con=2&cmd=1&id=75517&img=1&pg=1

Sorry, but two instances of the use of this word outside a U.S. context (one in England and one in Canada; New England doesn't count as non-US because it's part of the United States) do not provide a global perspective on the use of this type of postal conveyance. --Orlady (talk) 20:55, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There is no other global perspective on the use of this type of postal conveyance, since it was never used anywhere else in the world besides England, Canada, and the United States. The etymology says the word originated as Old French for defining how coats were carried for Kings.--Doug Coldwell ^talk 14:57, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal

Very clearly, the Portmanteau (luggage) article is thin and in need of work. Merging it with Portmanteau (mail) won't really address that problem. One could just as plausibly suggest that Portmanteau should be an omnibus article, and if we are in the merging mode that's where it should go. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:37, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Given the abscence of support for a merge over 3 years, I've removed the templates. Klbrain (talk) 15:09, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]