Talk:Porsche 911 (992)

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Infobox and article image proposal

Hello, I would like to proposed the following images to be used on the article. Although there cars in the background, it a good image of a image of the car in public rather then at a show like most of these performance cars on here are. Thanks.

Proposed image

Proposed image

Your rear photo is way better. I think this is a better photo of the front, the styling lines on the hood really stand out. Toasted Meter (talk) 17:28, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Front from main 911 page

Toasted Meter That image is the current infobox picture. I think the front image I proposed is better since there no showroom lights shining onto it, giving it a weird look to it (IMO). --Vauxford (talk) 17:48, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

It's current infobox picture on the man article not this one. I don't think the "autoshow look" is always a bad thing, in this photo the sharp lighting makes the shape of the front very clear, in the outdoor photo the sun overwhelms the more subtle lines. Toasted Meter (talk) 17:55, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Photo of the rear has excessive shadows over it. No wiki policy has admonished the use of car show photos. I don't know where this presumption came into being. U¹ _quattro TALK 08:41, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

I don't see what you are seeing at all. The image is very clear, it's framed well and has a very nice background. Toasted Meter (talk) 08:57, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Note regarding 992 911 Turbo S displacement

The new engine in the 992-generation 911 Turbo S based on the 9A2evo architecture known from the 992 Carrera has a bore of 102.0 mm, a stroke of 76.4 mm and a resulting displacement of 3,745 (actually 3745.7) cc (Original source: https://www.porsche.com/germany/models/911/911-turbo-models/ Section Technische Daten/Antrieb), hence the "3.7 L" displacement in the engine list. However the car is advertised as 3.8 L like the previous generation (including the engine deck lid, see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbNVvIZ0fXI Minute 4:28), so referring to the car as "a 3.8" is as such not incorrect. -- Epistolarius (talk) 23:02, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

But we agree we should not contradict the technical reality. U¹ _quattro TALK 16:36, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

I didn't correct the engine specs with the true engine displacement (rounded by the convert to 3.7) so that any references to it being a 3.8 should be removed, either. If the car is called a 3.8 by the company it is a 3.8 model, whether the actual displacement is exactly 3800 cc or rounded up from as far down as 3745 cc. Technical info needs to be accurate and we can still point out the reality of the car having a 3.8 badge. -- Epistolarius (talk) 01:32, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

I think we should stick to calling it a 3.7 . It’s probably just the PR/advertising department Of the company that thinks it is better to call it a 3.8 .... We should stick to the FACTS! Saschaporsche (talk) 07:23, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

So you agree that we can point out the facts that the car's engine lid has a "3.8" on it and Porsche calls it such. -- Epistolarius (talk) 01:47, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

How are you so sure that the engine lid has a 3.8 on it? As far as I'm aware, the Turbo doesn't have the engine displacement written on its engine lid anymore since the 996 generation.U¹ _quattro TALK 06:54, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Well, except... 992 Turbo S [1], [2] 991.2 Turbo S Exclusive: [3], [4] 991.2 Turbo S: [5] 991.1 Turbo S: [6] 997.2 Turbo (not all of delivered cars): [7], [8] -- Epistolarius (talk) 15:08, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

You call those the engine lid? Stop making a fool out of yourself. I'm talking about this. The turbo does NOT have engine displacement written on the engine lid anymore. U¹ _quattro TALK 11:40, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

When you have learned the difference between an engine fan cover and the engine lid, you can come back to the discussion with a valid viewpoint about why the engine should be listed as a 3.8 U¹ _quattro TALK 02:47, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Why are you deflecting? Whether you call it engine lid, engine cover or something else doesn't change the fact that just like on the 991 the car has a "3.8" plaque, and is marketed as such. You're ignoring ample evidence just to pick a fight with me, again? I didn't even bother to add it to the text, I just highlighted the fact that the car is indeed marketed as 3.8, whether you like it or not. -- Epistolarius (talk) 14:05, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Please stop this "fight", it is not helpful. Can i do a suggestion that we mention in the article something like:

"Note: although Porsche is listing the engine of the 992 Turbo S as 3.8 litre, in fact it is a 3.7 litre engine since it's displacement is only 3,745 cc"

Kind regards, Saschaporsche (talk) 16:33, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Deflecting? You clearly displayed you know nothing about the cars. The part you are showing is not called the engine lid but the engine fan cover which someone is least likely to see with the engine lid closed. The fact you're bickering about is of no importance unless one opens the engine lid to have a look. U¹ _quattro TALK 03:11, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Also, I'd trust independent reliable sources over what the manufacturer is saying in accordance with guidelines related to sourcing information. This fact which you're mulling about is unnoticeable on the car and as such is of little notability.U¹ _quattro TALK 03:15, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

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