Talk:Poor Jake's Demise

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Review: January 11, 2014. (Reviewed version).

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Note for the curious.

F. Gwynplaine MacIntyre's review at IMDb is not suitable for referencing, but it likely is an honest review. However, many of his reviews for lost films seem to be rather fanciful fabrications and those that do exist have some rather outstanding claims. For this reason, I will not be referencing MacIntyre's work on this article as they have been specifically credited as hoaxes. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 21:13, 8 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Good888 (talk · contribs) 14:53, 9 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Found the following issues:

Lead section

This needs to be expanded a bit. You could state that the plot is about Jake Schultz wanting revenge and that the film was released on August 16, 1913.

Plot and cast

The plot and cast needs to be split into two sections.
"Jake comes home and finds his wife and Willy Mollycoddle in a compromising position." Link compromising position.
"Jake takes his revenge on Willy with a seltzer bottle." Link seltzer bottle.

Production

"Poor Jake's Demise was directed by Allan Curtis" Allen Curtis you mean.
"Lobster Films which rediscovered and restored a fragment of the film. This fragment is 7 minutes and 52 seconds long." Don't see what this is in this section as it has nothing to do with the production of the film.

Release and reception

"The film had viewings in Texas, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Illinois." Suggest rewrite to: "The film was released on August 16, 1913 and had viewings in Texas, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Illinois."

Images

Since a fragment does exist, I would like a still of this film please.

Going to place on hold for now. good888 (talk) 13:55, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Fixes done, I wish there was more information on the film to provide - but nothing of which would pass Wikipedia's muster. Unfortunately, as much as I'd like a still from the film, I cannot find one for a very specific reason. The film did get a showing in 2006 according to numerous sources, and another viewing in 2011. Not even Mirsalis has a still and Lobster Films has not made it available for sale or provided any known film stills at this time. Most of the viewing accounts and added details are well.... tainted and on blogs. Michael Blake's plot summary is simply the best I have, but this summary pre-dates the rediscovery and restoration. F. Gwynplaine MacIntyre is a known hoaxer and I have my reservations about putting in such details because it is sourced to IMDB and that only other blog/forum posts by silent film fans can confirm that it is likely an honest interview. Most do not believe MacIntyre even made it to the festival (but he did) and some of his accounts are extremely fanciful - like Steinbecking a rare and fragile film or bringing an editing machine up into an Italian loft to view the movie (something the size of a kitchen oven). It may be a couple of years still before a proper release is done - the film is safe albeit in private hands that clearly does not want to monetize or distribute the work at this time. For that reason unless a contemporary still from the release is found, a major discovery if so, the best I can do is simply wait. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 16:13, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well since you have fixed the other issues, I can promote this article to GA class. Lets hope that Lobster Films will release a still at the very least soon. good888 (talk) 19:58, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]