Talk:Pomelo/Archive 1

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Archive 1

Scientific name or popular name (differences between Spanish Wiki, French Wiki, German Wiki, Russian Wiki)

An ip-anon editor added this to the article:

The spanish for grapefruit a pomelo. I wonder what they call a pomelo?

I removed it from the article and placed it here on the Talk page instead. I do not know whether or not it is true. Anyone? --AStanhope 02:28, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

-I used Google language tools, and it seems that Grapefruit in Spanish is really "pomelo". However, Google could not come up with a Spanish word for the English "pomelo". I'll go ahead and incorporate what the anon put on. Any objections? Flcelloguy 16:45, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

This is the Spainish wikipedia page for this particular fruit: http://www.wikipedia.es/result.php?buscar1=Citrus+maxima They call it pampelmusa, cimboa, or pomelo. If you say "pomelo" in Spanish, though, you will most likely be understood to be referring to Citrus paradisi, which Engligh speakers call "Grapefruit." I think an etymology of the word "pomelo" might be fitting on this wikipedia page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.23.43.244 (talk) 19:55, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't think it belongs. What is it called in Russian, Ukrainian, Swahili, Arabic.?.?.? I'm removing it again for the time being. --AStanhope 14:20, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

The French Wiki had a pretty good discussion regarding the scientific terminology http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discuter:Pomelo as to why they call a Citrus paradisi Pomelo and a Citrus maxima Grapefruit (opposite of English Wiki) versus the popular terminology (same as English). I really think the person in charge of this Wiki Project should do something about this situation and make sure all the Wiki languages are dealing with the same science. Surely there's a citrus expert out there who can clarify this. And even if the English Wiki remains as is, if English language people are using the wrong names than what's approved by science, then it should be noted as so in the main text....--207.189.245.159 18:17, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't say that that the French call Citrus maxima "grapefruit"! It says they use the word "pamplemousse" for it, and "pomelo" for grapefruit.

In English the word "pomelo" has long been used for grapefruit. The American Heritage Dictionary (at least until 1973) gave grapefruit as the only meaning of the word. It's not a question of science – it's just that the usage has changed. To be unambiguous one should use the word "shaddock". I think this article should be renamed "Citrus maxima" because the word "pomelo" is ambiguous.

Eric Kvaalen (talk) 10:47, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Malaysia info

An anon posted this which I have removed and placed here instead:

Ipoh is a city in Malaysia popular for the cultivation of the fruit, especially in the district of Tambun-Ampang corridor. Most of the pomeloes farms had given way to residential housing development. The fruit is an important ingredient in the auspicious Lo Hei salad, widely tossed as a practiced by business communities as a major Lunar New Year dish in Singapore and Malaysia.

--AStanhope 14:21, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

In Bahasa Malaysia it is known as limau agung, which can be translated as "King Lemon" or "King Citrus". Ptilinopus (talk) 22:50, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Merge from pummelo

To keep everything in one place, let's keep any discussion of the merge in Talk:Pummelo.

Removed DBZ reference

I removed the reference to the Dragon Ball character Zarbon. The similarity of this character's name to the Japanese word for Pomelo, zabon, has nothing to do with the fruit itself. — TheKMan^talk 00:59, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

drug intereactions?

Does anyone know if the fruit has the same drug interactions as the grapefruit does?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.99.1.78 (talk • contribs) 18:17, October 25, 2006 (UTC)

A quick google search suggests that it might act in the same way as grapefruit juice by inhibiting CYP3A4 or p-glycoprotein or both. [1] [2] --David Iberri (talk) 20:03, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Source of grapefruit citation

This could be cited back to the grapefruit article where it is mentioned, but that just transfers the problem. A citation would be nice, though it seems a 1940's report would be more likely to have it than an internet article. Any specialists out there? Oboler 16:20, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm no specialist, but the Columbia Encyclopedia says: "The pomelo (also called shaddock, for the man who first took it to England as a curiosity) was introduced into the West Indies, where it is thought that a seedling sport or mutation resulted in the grapefruit." [3]. FYI, a seedling sport is a type of mutation as far as I can tell. [4] --Calibas 01:08, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

And this page: http://waynesword.palomar.edu/ecoph6.htm says it's a hybrid. --Calibas 01:22, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Anything that anyone could do to verify the above interactions would be really appreciated. I am on a statin and have tried to find information on whether I can eat Pomelos - even to asking on the pharmaceutical company's website (never heard back from them) - since I cannot eat the grapefruit I used to love. Surely, some botanist or chemist has an answer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheOldMoose (talk • contribs) 18:31, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

This seems to be the source of most online news reports about pomelos affecting drug absorption: http://www.cmaj.ca/content/early/2012/11/26/cmaj.120951 The article is about the effects of grapefruit; pomelos are cited in the footnotes, such as footnote #15. (Print's too tiny for me; I leave it to people with better vision to dig out more from the article). A Michener (talk) 17:57, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Nice photos

Great series of photos, thank you. -Tattylicious 21:54, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Honey Pomelo

Could it be that the so called Honey Pomelo is a Re-Crossbreed between Citrus maximus and Citrus paradisi? 84.173.248.82 18:02, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Hello I'm from germany and there is pomelo called as another citrus fruit, see here de:Pomelo but how is called in english, Ipoh pomelos or China pomelos or China Honey Pomelo ? Here is this fruit also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya1lw9avHho is it the right name and is here no article for? It's the hybrid from Citrus paradisi & Citrus maxima, thanks for answer. -- Perhelion (talk) 19:56, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

10 kg?

Not a pomelo expert, but 10kg seems very, very much for a fruit even of 30cm diameter. Especially since the pomelo is rather dry and the spongy inside isn't very heavy either. Can anyone confirm this weight for sure? Ben (talk) 02:32, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

That's either old vandalism or some record someone heard about. I changed it to the average weights (do a google search for 'pomelo weight' and you'll see that many of the sights selling pomelos state 1-2 kg. NJGW (talk) 05:26, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

This 2007 journal article uses the exact same wording as the Wikipedia article ("growing as large as 30 cm in diameter and weighing as much as 10 kg"), which has been that way since 2005[5]. Don't you love how we're recreating knowledge. If someone has on-line access to this journal, we can see if Wikipedia got the proper citation. Does someone have a world record book so we can check the basis of the original claim? NJGW (talk) 05:41, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

I’ve also seen and eaten a lot of pomelos, and 1-2 kg is certainly more correct. 10-20 kg would require the thing to be made of pure lead. It’s ridiculous. I’m going to fix it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.77.141.136 (talk) 16:51, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Zarbon

How does Zardon = Pomelo? I'm not sure this is an encyclopedic tidbit. 05:28, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

you shouldn't have undone it because Zarbon (Zabon) is a name pun of the Pomelo. all you have to do is type the two together on google and you will find many sources referencing this. I'll explain to you if you'd like. The Pomelo fruit is known as a Zabon in Japan. This animated character that was created in Japan was named Zarbon (or Zabon). Either way, the creator, Akira Toriyama named the character after the fruit. He also named a lot of other characters after fruits. For example, if you would like, please check out the Durian fruit here on wikipedia. He named a character Dodoria after the Durian fruit. These are all name puns and are all highly accurate. If all his name puns are listed on all other fruits, then why not list the Pomelo as well as it's a fruit he used in his naming. Also, for more, please check the "origin and nomenclature" section of the Pomelo page here on wikipedia. You'll see the "zabon" already listed as reference for you. - Zarbon (talk) 00:43, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Saying other articles do something is not a good reason to do something here. That's like saying "Johny jumped off the cliff, so shouldn't I???" These pieces of trivia may be OK for the Japanese Wiki, but not the English one. We can't have every pun from every language in the world listed in this encyclopedia. Any wp:NOTABLE puns are important to have, but I see no indication that this is important to the article. NJGW (talk) 00:58, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Did you check all the other fruits right here on wikipedia. Please see the first section of Durian. This is interconnected to that page because in the animated series, Zarbon and Dodoria are incorporated with each other. It's a nice cultural reference to integrate. - Zarbon (talk) 15:08, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

What other articles do is not important. This could be mentioned at List of Dragon Ball characters ("His name comes from a pun on the Japanese word for Pomelo"), or a section of the main Dragon Ball article could talk about all the puns, but here it is inappropriately trivial to the topic of this article, mostly because it is not an English pun (and this is the English Wikipedia). NJGW (talk) 16:31, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

how is it unimportant? it's highly important for many people where they can easily access modern references. i'm sure that's not the only one and there are many other references that should be made here. Did you even check the section entitled "origin and nomenclature" on THIS article, even there you can see the word zabon is used so it cannot be argued that this isn't already present on this VERY article, connecting the character's name to the very word itself. - Zarbon (talk) 03:38, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

It has nothing to do with the fruit. See the section above where this is already discussed, and the reference removed. I can see I'm not going to change your mind, but the reference is not proper for this article. NJGW (talk) 04:00, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

I'd say it'd be one thing if the character's name were, I dunno, "Pomelo" (and even then I'd doubt it was really relevant), but connecting "Pomelo" to "Zabon" is like connecting Hitler to Kevin Bacon and then putting it in the Hitler article. Keep the section out. Jazz Man 19:32, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

But what about the Durian reference? Was that completely unimportant and inconsequential? - Zarbon (talk) 02:36, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, which is why it's now gone from Durian (and no, I wasn't the one who deleted it...) Jpatokal (talk) 08:51, 11 February 2009 (UTC)