Talk:Politics of Estonia

Link confusion

Why does the People's Party Moderates (Rahvaerakond Mõõdukad) link to the Social Democratic Party (Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Erakond)? Similarly, why does the Estonian Social Democratic Labour Party (Eesti Sotsiaaldemokraatlik Tööpartei) link to the Estonian Left Party (Eesti Vasakpartei)? If these are the same, you Estonians should really clear up the naming of these articles in English. It seems there's no norm. Joffeloff 19:32, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Well if you would have read the article for either of thes parties, you would have seen that the parties changed their names after the elction took place. --Boothy443 | trácht ar 05:42, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

This is farcical. How did someone put the Centre party as centre-left and the ESDP as centre? To my mind, American Democratic Party, a social liberal party would not be more left than a social-democratic party. Dogru144 15:58, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

That is actually how they are. The Centre Party is not intended to support centrist policies; instead, its original full name was 'The Central Party of People', akin to the Sovietese 'Central Committee of Planning'. Digwuren 11:23, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Border treaty

According to the international law, the border treaty is still signed, but not ratified. So, it's not correct to say, that treaty was nullified. Russian Parliament may ratify this treaty anytime he wants without any bilateral step. Also, according to the international law the Parliament can't add anything to the treaty itself. The preambula was added to the ratification act (that's mean to the domestic legal act, which internationally could be equal to the declaration), not to the treaty.

Important notice

The government section of the "Outline of Estonia" needs to be checked, corrected, and completed -- especially the subsections for the government branches.

When the country outlines were created, temporary data (that matched most of the countries but not all) was used to speed up the process. Those countries for which the temporary data does not match must be replaced with the correct information.

Please check that this country's outline is not in error.

Citizenship rules?

How is it today? I feel it is strange that it nowhere, not in the main Estonian page, nor on this page - says how many who not is citizens. Estonia/Latvian undemocratic view on the russian minority should be shown, shouldn´t it- even if you defend it?

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Rewriting the article?

Hello, I'm thinking about rewriting the article Politics of Estonia because it lacks content (what little it has isn't properly sourced), is slightly dated and doesn't give a properly detailed overview of Estonian politics/governance. I am also considering changing the structure, partly basing it on the Politics of Netherlands article, which seems well written and nicely organised. However, I'm unsure if such a radical change is acceptable and maybe it is preferable if I just tried to fill the gaps of the current article? Then again, the current article basically just mimicks the structure of the politics infobox. My current idea is drafted in my sandbox User:Estonian1885/sandbox --Estonian1885 (talk) 16:51, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

I have no knowledge of Estonia, so cannot comment on content, but I saw you suggested making these changes via a question at the Teahouse. I don't think the proposed structure shown in your sandbox is at all bad. It gives clarity to the page, but, of course, everything must always be supported by references to reliable sources. You could do with a few more of those. First laying out the political institutions, then summarising the political history, and then perhaps outlining the current political organisations/debates/issues seems logical. Everyone always has their own political views, so it's important to stay neutral, give both sides of any issues, and support all statements with sources, removing those that are uncited if they introduce mis-information, and be polite and courteous when talking with one another here so as to reach consensus on complex issues that would go onto the article itself. Should you not receive comments or views from other editors within a reasonable time, just WP:BeBold. Hope this helps. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 17:22, 24 November 2017 (UTC).

Yes, my current draft is just an initial outline and will be written more fully as I go forward. I was just looking for a confirmation on whether I should proceed spending time with this idea. My goal is to make this article a sort of start point for all the articles about politics and governance in Estonia. Once this article is somewhat acceptable, I'd move down into various other articles linked to it, which are also in a dire state. --Estonian1885 (talk) 17:47, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

I hope others will comment here, but I think you are approaching this in a sensible manner. (Could I ask you to move this discussion back to the bottom of the page where it belongs - all editors look for the most recent conversations at the bottom of a talk page, and may miss it here.) Nick Moyes (talk) 22:29, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

If you won't delate useful material from current version and rewritten article will be properly sourced then I support your initiative :) --Minnekon (talk) 08:59, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

I have rewritten the article now, but now it will need some language edits and possibly a proper comb through to find any issues I haven't noticed.--Estonian1885 (talk) 20:35, 27 January 2018 (UTC)