Talk:Pole and Hungarian brothers be

Which sentence of the article is not true? a) The Polish version: „Polak, Węgier, dwa bratanki, i do szabli, i do szklanki.” b) Politely, in the Polish version the "Hungarian" word comes first, and the Hungarian versions first mention the Poles.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.182.174.27 (talk • contribs).

What I'd love to find out, is when and where did this poem appear first...-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  13:23, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Hungarian text changed

I'm Hungarian and I've never heard the rhyme previously was here: Lengyel, magyar két jóbarát, együtt issza búját, borát If it's exist it's not common, even the Google didn't find it, so I corrected to the most widespread version. This also includes the word for "fight".

The two forms for "magyar, lengyel" and "lengyel magyar" are coexist, the lengyel-magyar is more common according to google.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.90.172.40 (talk • contribs).

I agree, I never heard that version either, only now in WP. The one which is now included in the article is more widespread. – Alensha ^talk 01:35, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

I was thinking maybe someone could also include the alternatives found in Hungarian article. I'm Polish so I find it interesting since we never use any alternatives in our language (though I know that at least one slight variation exists). Llewelyn MT (talk) 17:50, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Genetic Kinship

Under the Genetic Kinship section it says...

Two people will have the same Y chromosome marker only if they originated from the same father.

This is incorrect. What may have meant to have been said may have been...

Two people will have the same Y chromosome marker only if they originated from the same ancestor.

(However, even that assumes that no genetic convergence took place.)

I'm going to change father to ancestor in that sentence.

--Charles Iliya Krempeaux (talk) 02:34, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Tendentious OR

I am going to remove this [1] section again, unless somebody brings a reliable source discussing the idea that genetic material is causally related to political relations. This idea is so inherently ridiculous it would need very good sources indeed. And please nobody come and claim the section is "sourced". The individual statements may be, the link is not. As clear a case of tendentious WP:SYNTH as ever there was. The whole section is unsalvagable as long as the link isn't sourced. Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:23, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

No one states the genetic heritage is related to political issues, that would be indeed ridiculous. The section just adds another view on the kinship between both nations, genetic view. -- Darwinek (talk) 21:12, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Read the text. It said: the mutual friendship "has a factual basis" in the genetic facts, and it "shows the potential of population genetics in solving frequently obscured historical questions." Of course it is claiming a causal relationship here. And even if we removed these two passages: The article is not about any and all ways in which there may be "kinship" between the two peoples. It is explicitly about their "friendship", and only that. If a fact is not directly related to their friendship, what is it doing in this article? "Just adding another view" is precisely this: tendentious OR synthesis to advance a position. Fut.Perf. ☼ 21:47, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

I see, you are right. - Darwinek (talk) 21:51, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

The genetic link between ethnic Hungarians (Magyars) and Poles simply proves that ethnic Magyars are mostly only hungarised Slavs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.49.188.146 (talk) 10:03, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

There are plent of parallel beteen teh Hungarian and the Polish history. This is the basis for the above sentece. Those who are stating anything else are not aware of the real history. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.98.91.78 (talk) 19:21, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Why March 23?

Why was March 23 chosen as the day to celebrate this friendship? Does it commemorate a specific event, or is it because it's close to the beginning of spring, or what? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.76.82.45 (talk) 00:34, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Uniqueness

An unsourced assertion is made about the uniqueness of the relationship. This should be removed as other examples of relationships like this can be found, e.g. the Auld Alliance — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.69.47.202 (talk) 17:01, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

• Where? 212.24.189.120 (talk) 19:56, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Hungarian version

This is the full Hungarian version:

Lengyel-magyar két jó barát, Együtt dalol, s issza borát, Vitéz, bátor mindkettője, Áldás szálljon mindkettőre.

212.24.189.120 (talk) 19:54, 25 February 2014 (UTC)