Talk:Plummer Terrier

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Future/Health Issues

"While the Plummer Terrier generally breeds true in appearance, the standard is a working terrier standard. The most common serious health fault in this breed is cleft palate, followed by foul mouth, patella luxation and cryptorchidism."

Exactly what is "foul mouth" ? Is it just halitosis, a misalignment of teeth, or a tendency to swear? I added links to cryptorchidsm and patella luxation, as I really didn't know what those were. Although I assume "foul mouth" is just bad breath, possibly caused by some genetic oral issue in these dogs. I really can't be certain; maybe "foul mouth" is a special term in dog breeding circles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by OwlParty (talk • contribs) 03:01, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello fellows. Pls note I have included many notable citations in the article. Many of these websites were written by notable people a veterinarian named Dr. Linda Simon, an author, Patrick Burns of a book called "American Working Terriers" the website of "The Plummer Terrier Club Of Great Britain" and "The Plummer Terrier Club" and these people have a great understanding of the breed history. In addition, some of these authors own and breed Plummer Terriers for new owners. May we discuss what the issues that are causing the #Redirect, so we may improve and save the article. Thank you in advance. SurgeArrest (talk) 12:20, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A lack of notability. Wikipedia requires reliable independent secondary sources that provide significant coverage for a stand alone article. Only one of the sources you have used meet that definition. Traumnovelle (talk) 18:42, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why would you feel the articles written by Dr. Linda Simon a veterinarian, an author, Patrick Burns of a book called "American Working Terriers" the website of "The Plummer Terrier Club Of Great Britain" and "The Plummer Terrier Club" are not notable. They seem quite notable to me. SurgeArrest (talk) 09:14, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Random doghelp.com websites are not reliable, self-published websites are not reliable, non-independent sources do not establish notability. Traumnovelle (talk) 18:53, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pls note that I have added two more notable books with page numbers:

Morris, Desmond (2002). Dogs: The Ultimate Dictionary of over 1,000 Breeds Pg. 173. Trafalgar Square Publishing. ISBN 978-1570762192

Fogle, Bruce. (2000). The Encyclopedia of the Dog. Pg. 261. Dorling Kindersley. ISBN 978-0789461308 SurgeArrest (talk) 17:14, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Those are good sources but the article will be quite short with those. The other current sources are not reliable bar the Shooting Times. Do you plan to rewrite this? Traumnovelle (talk) 20:18, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You have been shown several notable citations. The Plummer Terrier is notable and the article should remain. If you would like to read the notable sources provided and help improve the article, I am sure it would be appreciated by all, thank you SurgeArrest (talk) 11:44, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the content will need to be removed/rewritten/resourced, do you wish to do that yourself? Traumnovelle (talk) 20:02, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you would like to participate with me in rewriting the article to improve it that would be appreciated - thank you!. SurgeArrest (talk) 11:29, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]