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A few comments about this article in its current version

The way this article is written, it includes superfluous information that needs to be put in context or its relevance explained better in order for it to remain in the article (IMHO). The way it is currently presented, the info adds no value to the article. Please include a better explanation of why this information is important in order for it to stay.

"...this coming after plans fell through for a relocation to a proposed Simon Property Group location at Penn’s Landing." I recommend eliminating this part of an already long sentence. Even after reading the reference, it is still not clear what the relevance is of this statement to this article. If there is some context to which this information is important, it needs to be added to the article in order for it to stay.
"...one block west of The Franklin." What is important about this information to the old location?
"...and its’ Fairmont Park Commission..." The Fairmont Park Commission does not seem notable nor does it seem important to the article. Why include it?

Thanks! FieldMarine (talk) 05:13, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't superfluous info. The information presented is based on both history and facts, which was spelled out at philly.com, which did a special section on the new location.

In 2002, the museum spent almost US $10 million in preperation for a move to a Penns Landing as part of the development for a shopping/entertainment center to be built by Simon Property group. However, negotiations fell through and the museum stayed at their location at that time.

This may be relevant, but not well integrated or explained in the article as presented. This either needs to be explained better as to how it specifically applies to the story or eliminated. FieldMarine (talk) 11:58, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The reference of "One block west of The Franklin" was based on the fact that the museum at that time was located on North 21st Street, whereas The Franklin (more commonly called The Franklin Institute) is one block east of the former location.

So what? I still don't see the importance. What is the relavance of the Franklin to the story & why would the reader care how close it is to the museum? FieldMarine (talk) 11:59, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Fairmount Park Commission (which could soon cease to exist if a vote is approved on November 4th) is technically the owner of the Memorial Hall building on the Fairmount Park grounds.

Overall, this is unclear in the article. However, it seems like a more appropriate fact for the Memorial Hall building article. I’m not sure information about the landlord is important to this article. FieldMarine (talk) 13:01, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I hope this clears up any confusion you might have on the subject. NoseNuggets (talk) 4:03 AM US EDT Oct 22 2008

Thanks for your response. I'm not confused, I'm just unclear as to the relevance of the information to the story as it is currently presented & I still am quite frankly so I'm adding a tag regarding relevance to this information until it is better integrated into the article or eliminated. FieldMarine (talk) 12:01, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Relevance of information

In response to the relevance of the information prsented above, a tag has been added to the article to address the issue. Thanks! FieldMarine (talk) 12:01, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Citations

The History section requires verifiable & credible inline citations (Footnotes). FieldMarine (talk) 12:33, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tags

I'm not sure why the refimprove tag needs to be in the history section as opposed to the top of the article, but whatever. Regarding the information of questionable importance, though, it would probably help other editors if the contentious information was actually identified. Tomdobb (talk) 18:32, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please see "A few comments about this article in its current version" section above in reference to irrelevant material included in the article. Any comments on the issue would be greatly appreciated as I was hoping to get additional opinions. Also, the history section is what lacks the sources & I was hoping to target that section for improvement in this regard. Thanks! FieldMarine (talk) 19:24, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Penn's Landing bit has been slightly rewritten. I'd be OK with further removing the stuff about Simon Property Group. I think it's notable enough to say the Franklin Institute is nearby, but this could probably be written differently. And I haven't read the source about the lease, but whoever gave the lease should be listed whether it's the city, the park commission or both. Tomdobb (talk) 13:16, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just reread the section and it seems like there is no source for the lease and that the museum is currently not near the Franklin, but used to be. If that's the case, the Franklin info is not needed and the lease information just probably be cleaned up. I'll have a go at it now. Tomdobb (talk) 13:18, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tomdobb, thanks for taking a look & improving this article. This article keeps getting irrelevant info added as well as numerous spam entries. Any help watching that would be appreciated. FieldMarine (talk) 14:09, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]