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Liturgical dress

I'm just wondering if the addition by @David Condrey: (here) about liturgical dress belongs in this article? The reference discusses the origin of the Geneva gown, so perhaps it would be better in that article since a Geneva gown is worn by church ministers, not by the the religious groups discussed in the plain dress article. I very much appreciate David Condrey's well-sourced contribution, it's great to see users adding content to articles. I'm just curious about what others think. Thanks, Ry's the Guy ^{(talk|contribs)} 08:53, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I would recommend merging the articles together. David Condrey ^{log talk} 00:56, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Rystheguy, this article isn't about liturgical dress or the garments worn by clergy. They're not completely unrelated topics, but they are distinct topics.Penny Richards (talk) 02:55, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think the articles should be merged since they are, as Penny Richards states, distinct topics. If others disagree then I'd be happy to discuss it though. @David Condrey: would you be against moving your contribution to the Geneva gown article? Ry's the Guy ^{(talk|contribs)} 13:42, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't really mind, either way. If someone wants to do it before I have time to. Thanks. David Condrey ^{log talk} 18:51, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I do think that a tag or something should be added to the top of this article explicitly describing the subject of this article. Because I'm currently not clear on what the subject of the article or how it differs from similar topics as Penny mentioned. David Condrey ^{log talk} 18:54, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Okay I'll move it in a few days if you haven't gotten around to it. I'm not sure what you mean by adding a tag. Do you mean modifying the lede? Do you have any suggestions? Thanks, Ry's the Guy ^{(talk|contribs)} 13:00, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Gallery

Images in the gallery section are too large and need to be resized in my opinion. Mainly because Wikipedia is not a showcase for images. -- Chamith (talk) 10:10, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Per the above, I have further reduced the images using the mode=packed parameter in the gallery. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 16:39, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking that the gallery looks a little cluttered and maybe has too many images. I don't think it's necessary to include more than 1 or 2 photos of each religious group. Maybe it would help to remove a few of the photos of Schmiedeleut Hutterites, Old Colony Mennonites, and Amish since there are multiple examples of each? Ry's the Guy ^{(talk|contribs)} 15:03, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Suggested re-wording

What do editors think about re-wording this sentence from the fourth paragraph in the lead?

Here is the sentence now:

Among the Amish and other plain groups, plain dress is not considered to be a costume but instead is an expression of their religious philosophy.

Suggested re-wording:

Among the Amish and other plain groups, plain dress is not a costume but rather an expression of their religious philosophy.

– Corinne (talk) 22:03, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think that rewording is more concise and maintains the original meaning. Ry's the Guy ^{(talk|contribs)} 13:37, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Rewording, heh? Well, that’s a good idea. As it is now, the lede reads either as a hugely biased, pious selfpromo tract penned by the most obsequious follower of this fashion style, or as the most tongue-in-cheek mockery of the same. I personally adhere to the latter and guffawed reading it, but it then struck me that eitherway that’s not at all what’s needed from an encyclopedia. Tuvalkin (talk) 19:42, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]