Talk:Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides/Archive 1

Archive 1

Messed Up Infobox

there is messed up text in the infobox. I don't know how to correct this, so will someone please fix it? MistyPony1994 (talk) 21:02, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Filming

It is okay for the film to have an article now, as filming has begun.The Editor 155 (talk) 13:39, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

As long as sources confirm the start of principal photography after shooting has begun. (WP:NFF). Alex Douglas (talk) 14:08, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

I have not yet found such as source. It is not "okay for the film to have an article" until a source is found. Alex Douglas (talk) 14:37, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

What about this source, which states that filming has begun? [1]The Editor 155 (talk) 15:24, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Bruckheimer mentions it on his Twitter page, you can't get more official than that[2]--Gaunt (talk) 08:33, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Awesome. Thanks! 124.171.220.211 (talk) 13:18, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Richard Thomson in Pirates 4

Richard Thomson IS in Pirates 4. I don't know why, but for some reason, the article is missing. It was PROOF that he is in Pirates 4. And I know that we need sources, I am a user at a Wiki(I'm just not too big on joining this Wikipedia, because this is where the most vandalism happens). All I'm asking is that I earn your trust on this, for I am a user at PotC Wiki, I've looked up ALL PotC news(minus the Paul Benzley thing, which again I apologize for), and I am a HUGE fan of the films. So, please allow me to put Richard Thompson's name in the cast list without a source. And I know we have to have a source for these things(I am a Wiki person), but for this one time, can we not use a source? Because that source about Richard Thomson WAS on the internet, but it disappeared for some reason and I can't find it. I wouldn't making it a big deal unless if I had good reasons too. 75.90.114.117 (talk) 20:40, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

No... we really don't have to add anything. Try Google cache. Or add {{fact|July 2010}} next to his name in the article which will tell readers that there is no source and maybe someone will add one. Mike Allen 21:33, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. But actually, I think I'll do the fact thing(mostly because I've looked everywhere in google for that information). Oh,and just to let you know, my IP address may change from time to time(I don't know why, I'm not a technical person). But I will make changes if necessary. 75.90.114.117 (talk) 21:54, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Film logo

Hey, if you guys need a pic for the infobox on this film, I'd suggest you get this one. It's the most recent AND it's got GREAT quality. You guys don't have to take it, but if you want it, here it is. :) 75.89.207.133 (talk) 01:55, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

What's the original source? Mike Allen 02:58, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

I know who did this, it was someone from POTC Wiki. The original original source(where that person got it from), was from the Comic-con Announcement. CJS2.0 (talk) 22:50, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Budget cuts

This portion of the Filming section

Disney Studios chairman Rich Ross restricted the film's budget to $200 million, $100 million less than At World's End and $25 million less than Dead Man's Chest, in order to cut costs.

From what I've read, the source of this information about the budget cuts is false. If you want more information of what I'm talking about, here is a source of Terry Rossio addressing the budget cut news: http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=65778

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Rich Ross didn't make the budget $200 million, I'm just saying we need a more reliable source about anything involving the budget cuts. Because it has been confirmed that the LA times article isn't entirely reliable. CJS2.0 (talk) 21:32, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the Coming Soon article's source is a message board - and message boards are generally considered not to be valid sources for WP references. Besides, this article points out that Rossio "kind of admits that he doesn’t actually know what Pirates of the Caribbean 4’s budget will be". It will be best to keep with the facts at hand, those being the direct quotes from Ross in a newspaper article rather than edits taken from a message board posting that contains conjecture. SpikeJones (talk) 02:21, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Pirates 4 cost only $250 milion. No $378 milion Jackson 96 (talk) 17:28, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

The budget of this movie is only $250 milion Jackson 96 (talk) 17:33, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Casting

With the recent editing of this article(concerning the casting), I would like to make a few points(just what I noticed):

Almost everything that was edited in here(from IMDB), is not true. There are only a handful of stuff from IMDB is even true(other than the main casting). The only person I think we can keep that was written in IMDB is "Sebastian Armesto as King Ferdinand". I think that this is the ONLY thing in IMDB, in the case of casting in IMDB, that is true because of what's been revealed about the opening scene of the film(which did include King Ferdinand). CJS2.0 (talk) 03:15, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

The point is that WP is not IMDB. That is, IMDB is a place to have a complete cast listing whereas WP is not a place to include it. It is not encyclopedic to include who "Palace Guard #2" was. SpikeJones (talk) 03:35, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

wasn't there an asian mermaid? what happened? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.190.194.171 (talk) 13:21, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Mònica Cruz is stand in for her sister due to the pregnancy, but she is not mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.202.216.178 (talk) 17:13, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

New Infobox image

I think we should change the infobox image of the teaser poster(which says "Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides Summer 2011"), with this image, which does have the release date on it. And it is an official Disney logo, as said here:

http://ramascreen.com/pirates-of-the-caribbean-on-stranger-tides-new-logo-and-updated-synopsis/

I would do it myself, but I don't know how to upload images in WP. CJS2.0 (talk) 12:32, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

New trilogy?

Is POTC4 the first part of a second trilogy?173.58.53.212 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:18, 24 February 2011 (UTC).

It could be.--Max Tomos (talk) 09:45, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

I hope not.PNW Raven (talk) 18:16, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

King George II

This article states that George II of Great Britain is a character in this upcoming film. A problem is evident, as George II did not take the throne until 1727, nine years after Blackbeard (another historical figure that is a character in this film) was killed by Robert Maynard. George II could be a character in this film, but this article would have to refer to him as either Prince George of Wales, as that was his title from 1714 to June 11, 1727, or as Duke Georg August of Hanover, as that was his title from birth on October 25, 1683 to 1714. Perhaps it is not George II that is a character in this film, but his father George I who ran the country during Blackbeard's piracy, and it was he who pressed hard on his Navy to stop him. If this film does have George II as king then this film takes place in an alternate universe? - Mdriver1981 (talk) 01:24, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

In the POTC universe, Blackbeard wasn't killed in the Battle of Ocracoke Inlet in 1718. He grew old and that's why he's searching for the Fountain of Youth, to become young again. How he survived at Ocracoke Inlet will be explained in Pirates of the Caribbean: Six Sea Chanties graphic novel. Also, the Queen Anne's Revenge still floats, so we can say that this is some sort of Alternate history film.--89.172.199.125 (talk) 10:10, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

One might also point out that the letter of Marque from the second film bore a portrait of George II, but if Blackbeard is going to be portrayed as an old man then that is probably just a mistake since Blackbeard was only in his later 30s when he died, but would have been in his late 40s when George II took the throne, and since he's being played by a 68-year old man then that would place this movie around the late 1740s/early 1750s (though that goes against the historical fact that Port Royal was not a major port during that time, which again could be answered as simply alternate history). Emperor001 (talk) 04:49, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

The presence of Ferdinand VI of Spain in the cast list means the setting must be between that King's accession in 1746 and death in 1759. Opera hat (talk) 21:38, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

This film takes place in 1750 [3]--161.53.27.4 (talk) 08:32, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

That link doesn't necessarily support a 1750 date. The articles says "...there are a lot more realistic elements being brought in from the real world into this one. Black Beard obviously, the Queen Anne’s Revenge, the production designed them the same, there’s a clear date of 1750 because that’s where you obviously got Execution Doc" (sic). Why should a reference to Execution Dock tie the date to 1750? And it's not even the screenwriter who says that, but the interviewer. Opera hat (talk) 21:10, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Here's another source for 1750 though. Opera hat (talk) 22:00, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Barbossa's ship, HMS Providence, is flying the version of the Union Flag that wasn't adopted until 1801 which would set the film in the 19th century (...or may well be an erroneous anachronism!) 80.176.88.21 (talk) 00:30, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

That's probably an anachronism, because they're using the 18th century version of the White Ensign on their boats.--Max Tomos (talk) 12:57, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

It is clearly stated in the movie that the king rules Ireland too, so it would make much more sense if the king is actually King George III... 93.172.147.128 (talk) 15:15, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

George II was also the King of Ireland.--Max Tomos (talk) 07:14, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh, my mistake. I was confused because he wasn't the king of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. 93.172.147.128 (talk) 11:28, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Film poster

The film poster is not correct. The current one is the international poster, indicated by the fact that it says "In Cinemas" on it versus "In Theaters." The correct domestic (US) poster can be found here. The IMAX 3D poster can be found here. If anyone doesn't have an issue with this, I will go ahead a change it. --TravisBernard (talk) 18:54, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

I also check the manual of style and there is no clear indication of how to chose an international version versus a domestic one. Also, IMDb sites the domestic one as the official poster. Thoughts? --TravisBernard (talk) 21:05, 21 April 2011 (UTC)