Talk:Pierre Nkurunziza

Children

Pierre is listed as having 6 kids, but his wife is listed having 5. Did he have a child with someone else? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.131.186.65 (talk) 15:16, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

I think that is probably because the reference dates to 2011. —Brigade Piron (talk) 16:12, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Dubious Awards

This article makes reference to awards such as an honorary PhD given by Latin University of Theology in California. A quick check reveals Latin University of Theology in California to be a defunct degree mill, not accredited by any organization recognized by the US Department of Education, which was run out of a strip mall in Torrence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:1E60:EF70:4C1B:4D6C:76B4:52D9 (talk) 11:58, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Untitled

Good article. I feel, though, that we also need some mention of the fact that, according to Amnesty and Human Rights Watch, CNDD-FDD military strategy under Nkurunziza's leadership included the use of child soldiers, and deliberate killings of civilians (eg. http://hrw.org/english/docs/2003/12/21/burund6789.htm). Nkurunziza currently enjoys immunity from prosecution under a 2003 "de facto amnesty" but many Burundians believe that he's technically culpable for crimes against humanity. It's likely this will resurface at some point. 80.43.5.75 12:04, 31 October 2005 (UTC) Also, there is evidence that the 1972 killings of Hutu civilians (including Nkurunziza's father) were state-orchestrated and systematic. A 1996 UN report described them as "genocidal": http://www.usip.org/library/tc/doc/reports/burundi_coi/burundi_coi1996pt2.html - and comparisons have been made with the 1994 Rwandan genocide. Any thoughts?

Belongs to Burundi genocide#May to July, 1972. That section supports your image. Add it to there. Rursus dixit. (^mbork³!) 14:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Neutrality

Some passages are clearly lacking neutrality, so that parts of the article almost read like an campaign advert (“courageous”, “wise”, etc.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.180.14.131 (talk) 13:29, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

I agree. His own people are protesting the fact that he's chosen to run for a third term, and yet, as you said, the article reads like a campaign advertisement. Moreover, the bulk of the article contains no references. After looking through the previous edits, I found an edit starting with: "The new Head of State inherited a country devastated by over a decade of civil war and dictatorship." and ending with "In October 2011 in Monaco, the Peace and Sports International organization granted to Pierre Nkurunziza an award for having made sports a tool for reconciliation in his country." This was all done in a single edit made on February 25 2012 by IP 41.79.43.148 I think the best solution would be to remove all unverifiable information added during this edit. Rleonar5 (talk) 00:51, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Neutrality

This article is incredibly biased, for a nation that is edging towards civil war to have the president described in such incredibly uncritical terms in very wrong. Note the juxtaposition of the section on this man banning jogging and the rest of the article describing him as a champion of the poor and a sporting hero. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Angus 5:11 UTC 19/6/2014 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.168.217.145 (talk) 05:13, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

This article describes him as a mixture of Napoleon, Messi and Mandela --Smartbyte (talk) 11:55, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Imaginary religion

Nothing distinguishes Born again Christians from Christians, Born again Christians does not constitute a separate religious body. I'm going to change the religious affiliation to something appropriate. Rursus dixit. (^mbork³!) 14:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

POV tag, time to remove it?

I tried to remove/fix some of the POV nonsense in the personal life section, can we remove the tag now? --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 00:44, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

This article is incredibly biased and one-sided. Hopefully the recent news will bring in other editors to help provide a more balanced article. I am going to start removing references with no citation and hope this article is basically re-written from scratch. Lipsquid (talk) 15:03, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Well someone undid my last changes. There is all kinds of bias in this article and very few citations. I am going to start cleaning up anything without citations. i encourage other editors to please come by and review this page. Lipsquid (talk) 20:52, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

I believe the article is neutral enough now, although it's still missing citations etc. Anyone else agree that the POV tag should be removed? Hesnotblack (talk) 22:27, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Please add "aka Peter Nkurunziza" to this article

It should be mentioned in this article that in English language context the deceased president of Burundi is also referred to as Peter Nkurunziza (not Pierre Nkurunziza). It is important to understand that Peter Nkurunziza and Pierre Nkurunziza are in fact the same person.

I will include some examples referring to the former president as Peter Nkurunziza:

• Natacha meets Burundi Head of the State Peter Nkurunziza, regionweek.com
• The president of the Republic of Burundi is His Excellency Peter NKURUNZIZA.
• WHISPERS IN THE CORRIDORS OF RWANDA’S DIRECTORATE OF MILITARY INTELLIGENCE – DEATH OF MUTAMA PETER NKURUNZIZA., rpfgakwerere.org

You can find more on the internet.--2003:CF:3F24:C33B:1898:7FA2:52:6AD0 (talk) 18:15, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Dunno if necessary, but done. If they are any issues with what I did, go and WP:FIXIT Benica11 (talk) 02:38, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

I think better sources will be needed for this. It is possible that Nkurunziza anglicized his name, but these sources do not prove it. Mainstream English language newspapers in Europe, North America and East Africa always refer to him as "Pierre". The sources cited in the Regionweek.com article use "Pierre". —Brigade Piron (talk) 14:25, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

On reflection, I think it's likely that "Peter" is just a mishearing of "Pita". —Brigade Piron (talk) 17:08, 26 June 2020 (UTC)