Talk:Pierre Lallement

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source missing

Except the well-known 1866 patent, it is not possible to be affirmative on the point : who was the first one to add cranks and pedals on the front wheel of a hobby-horse ? unless providing documents or quoting reliable authors.

Let's considere that Michaux et Cie, the firm of the Michaux family, start industrial production of velocipedes à pédale in 1865, and that Pierre Lallement worked with them before going to the US. The pattern of these machines was almost identical with Lallement's one. Velib (talk) 18:34, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Notability and references

Many people "could be" the inventor of the bicycle. In the second sentence it states that after seeing "someone ride by on a dandy horse" he "would have been inspired to build one of his own". Why is this?

The phrases "apparently interacted with" and "Some claim" need to be backed up with references.

Finally, I fail to see this person meeting the notablity requirement if he "died in obscurity in 1891". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wperdue (talk • contribs) 19:13, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The article could be tightened up and more references added, but dying in obscurity is an irrelevant objection. He has the single best claim to inventing the bicycle--an event of enormous, world-wide importance. In Bicycle, the history (Yale University Press, 2004) David V. Herlihy details some of the proof--American rivals of the company which bought Lallement's patent tried to find any evidence of prior invention in Europe and came up with none. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.173.157.24 (talk) 01:23, 9 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]