Talk:Pictures for Sad Children/Archives/2016/October

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It has been linked by a lot of people and John Campbell also started that hourly comics thing, so it's notable. I mean... you have articles about individual episodes of friends, the hell this isn't notable.--ISeeDeadPixels (talk) 19:47, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I've added references by Fleen and the Web Cartoonist's Choice Awards, two reliable secondary sources providing non-trivial mention. This proves notability. I'm going to go ahead and take off the tag for "notability" because the article now has multiple secondary source references, which is the requirement for notability according to wikipedia guidelines (WP:WEB). (R.haverly (talk) 15:20, 10 April 2008 (UTC))

Where do we discover that Paul isn't really a ghost? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.80.180.10 (talk) 05:00, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

"When John was born, it rained. In the hospital." I love that. BeyondTheAbyss (talk) 07:53, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

If "He also encourages his fans to vandalize this Wikipedia page.", how can anything be vandalism? It's the author's wishes towards his own product. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.243.253.114 (talk) 23:45, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

It's not "his own product", it's an article on wikipedia about his work. If he wanted his wikipedia article to say that he was 100 feet tall and could throw children some 15 miles, that wouldn't mean that the article should say that. 59.167.44.159 (talk) 09:49, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

I've added that information but it doesn't sound right to me so I would appreciate if someone could provide a reference. 203.217.150.68 (talk) 03:39, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Anyway, the article needs work. I'm skeptical of the claim he started the comic in mexico, in fact because of the threat of vandalism any unsourced fact looks pretty suspicious. 59.167.44.159 (talk) 09:54, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

The About section of the pfsc site claims he did: http://www.picturesforsadchildren.com/about.php —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.56.3.37 (talk) 02:25, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

I removed part about Campbell having a PhD in proto-linguistics. There is no evidence of this whatsoever, as far as I can tell. samadam (talk) 05:49, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

This page needs updating as the information is not current. I think first we should mention his book that was just released. In addition the "main storyline" has been abandoned for weeks now in favor of one-off strips with no continuity (save the helpless squid storyline) a la Perry Bible Fellowship. 12.180.109.29 (talk) 06:42, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

It's worth noting somewhere that much of the surreal storyline and dialogue of the beginning of the series is taken directly from T.S. Eliot's "The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock." 204.111.161.30 (talk) 05:51, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

This page needs to remain because Pictures for Sad Children has become infamous. It is a part of history and should remain. In addition, his fraudulent behavior must be demonstrated — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.213.117.152 (talk) 16:43, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Potential removal

As of earlier today, February 26, 2014, John Campbell has requested that this page either be removed or vandalized.Request for removal Should this page be flagged for removal? Is it even Wikipedian to allow an artist to remove a page? Should an encyclopedia be a reference for all of history or can history itself be modified? Kajong0007 (talk) 18:21, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

What? Of course not. It's absurd to erase history just because someone wants it to disappear. The fact that he wants to remove all traces of his online identity is simply another mark on his history.

Also, see the discussion at the top. Apparently this kind of thing has been encouraged by him before. And that kind of thing has also been smacked down. Sorry Campbell, but this page ain't goin' nowhere (for now). 67.208.179.66 (talk) 18:58, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

Most of the references are now completely dead... John Campbell, what do you want with us? Kajong0007 (talk) 19:04, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

If anything, I'd say this page needs to be expanded. It should include more references to his Kickstarter campaign and how he never sent out the rewards. There's also the "pretending to be depressed" controversy that spread across the internet for a few weeks. Incidentally, if the page does need some new references, I imagine there are plenty of people who have the print copy of his first book at hand, unless he managed to delete those, too. 24.124.62.55 (talk) 16:48, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

No. I have a great respect for John Campbell but this page is not his work and his wishes are not criteria for deletion. Srimech (talk) 03:22, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Changing pronouns?

The Kickstarter post seemed to indicate that Campbell is a woman ("actress", "Mr. Internet Man. First of all I’m not a "man” I think— Oh my goddddd oh my goddd shutuuuuupppppp"). Should the pronouns in the article be updated to reflect this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.235.177.224 (talk) 01:16, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

This is anecdotally true, but the post in which Campbell came out as transgender and wishes to identify as female is purportedly only accessible to backers of one of her Kickstarter projects (I'm not sure which one). So good luck finding a way to cite it. cipherswarm (talk) 02:28, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I misread your comment. I don't know what the Wikipedia policy is on gender pronouns, I was simply pointing out that I had heard the same thing but am unable to actually read the post she wrote about it.cipherswarm (talk) 02:31, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

The source currently used to justify female pronouns is not very authoritative (fails BLPSPS). I am reverting to male pronouns. 1Rabid Monkey (talk) 12:13, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Actually it doesn't fail, you're ignoring BLPSELFPUB. -218.101.54.25 (talk) 00:50, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Where is a source that John Campbell is male? 2620:0:1000:1701:84B9:DFA4:B5AD:7B58 (talk) 19:02, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Good point, but it should still stand due to the article's precedent and not change until we have a citable reference. In light of the fact that users above and those in this TV Tropes thread have cited a backer-only post (as "unreliable" as it is), I would advise someone who is a backer to link to the post as a not easily accessible (paywalled) reference. 8ty3hree (talk) 02:13, 5 December 2014 (UTC)