Talk:Piaggio Zip

Content was copied over from the Piaggio Zip 4T. Was attempting a WP:MERGE. I believe the content from the external flagged article could have been copied from Wikipedia having looked through the edit. A major rewrite needed any way. Tag removed as it is unlikely I'll use much of the text as it stands.MAbbey (talk) 09:00, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Copied text removed and rewritten from scratch.MAbbey (talk) 09:06, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

• Yes, Cyclopedia routinely mirrors us. Still, copying from one article to another is fine (see WP:CWW) if you want to use any of the 4T text, though I do agree your version is better. Crow^Caw 22:56, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Merger action has now been performed. Eagleash (talk) 11:37, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Forced air?

What does "forced air" cooling mean? Is it ducted? Maybe this should be discussed in the article and just standard "air cooled" nomenclature used in the table. — Brianhe (talk) 04:47, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

I mainly used the forced air term because that is what is used in the Piaggio literature. Air cooled scooters usually have a cowl around the cylinder and a fan connected to the crankshaft to force air through the fins. This adds to that "hairdryer" sound we hear. The air cooled article does mention forced air cooling. Shall I pipe link forced air cooled or change it to the standard air cooled? MAbbey (talk) 07:45, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

I think air-cooled should be the basic description used. Whether it is ducted in some way, or not, it is not liquid-cooled. If desired, a (slightly) more detailed description could be included in the main wording. Eagleash (talk) 09:11, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

All changed to air-cooled. Quick question, do we use water-cooled or liquid-cooled as a standard? MAbbey (talk) 09:22, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

I've seen both used but both water-cooled and liquid-cooled re-direct to the same article i.e. Water cooling of which automotive use is a sub-section. There is also an article Radiator (engine cooling) which is more specific. Personally I think LC would be better but it's just an opinion. If it hasn't been already, perhaps it's something to raise at the project page? Eagleash (talk) 09:30, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

I think liquid cooled is the better term, but that links to a disambiguation page. Air-cooled is much simpler thankfully. I'll raise the issue at the project. MAbbey (talk) 10:59, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Doh! I forgot about the disamb page. Perhaps radiator with a piped link "LC" might be the way to do it? Eagleash (talk) 11:21, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Or Internal combustion engine cooling?! Too much choice... - MAbbey (talk) 11:35, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Ah yes; but that refers to both air- and liquid-cooling. Eagleash (talk) 11:50, 17 June 2015 (UTC)