Talk:Phintella parva/GA2

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Nominator: Simongraham (talk · contribs) 06:30, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Jens Lallensack (talk · contribs) 21:51, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Hi there! I noticed that comments raised in the previous GA review (GA1) have not been addressed (most of them language errors and simple typos). Please resolve those issues first. Then, please have a careful read looking for obvious spelling/grammar issues, missing spaces etc (I see several errors already at first glance, e.g. It was , one of over 500 species that she identified by over her career). When done, please ping me and I am happy to review this in-depth. Thanks. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 22:01, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

@Jens Lallensack: Thank you for picking this up. Unfortunately the review (GA1) was archived by the reviewer before I could make any comments. Nonetheless, I believe that all the necessary changes have been made, along with other small amendments as you note. I look forward to your comments. simongraham (talk) 13:40, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

Hi again. I now had a careful look at the article and the sources. The sources generally support the text, and the article seems carefully researched. The main problem is the language, which has multiple issues, sometimes leading to factual errors (examples below). I decided that I will not loose time listing this all here; instead I am going to do a copy edit myself. However, before I can do that, I ask you to resolve a couple of issues listed below that are not related to language:

• The first recorded siting in Haeju was in 1987, followed by Chongjin, Hongwon County, Kaesong and Kyongsong County in 1990. The spider was also found in the areas around Mount Kumgang at the same time. – The source only gives a list of specimens with date. It does not explicitly state that the Haeju one was the "first" of anything. This, therefore, would fall under WP:Synth (we should only state what the sources actually say, not making our own interpretations of the data). The reason is that it is very easy to make a mistake (the source does not state that the list is exhaustive).
  • Amended.

• Subsequent identifications have shown that the species also lives outside the Korean peninsula – You cite here the first description of 1981. This is therefore not a "subsequent identification", as previous identifications could not possibly have identified the species as it did not exist prior 1981.
  • Amended.

• It was later seen that the spider also lived on Furugelm Island. – So it is extinct there now?
  • The sources do not comment on its current status. They only state that it was living on the island at the time.

• Primorsky Krai, in what is now Russia, – it was always Russia during the years that you discuss, right?
  • It was called the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic of the Soviet Union at the time. Clarified.

• The species name is the Latin word for small. – The "species name" is the whole thing, Phintella parva. You are referring to the second part of the species name, known as the specific name.
  • Amended and linked.

• based on a holotype – "the" holotype, since there is only one.
  • Amended.

• Phintella parva is known as 묘향깡충거 미 (Myo-hyang-kkang-chung-geo-mi) in Korea. – You should name and link the language here (is it Korean?).
  • Named and linked.

• The genus name derives from the genus Phintia due to the similarities between the two genera – Any information on what the different ending means? And what does Phintia mean to start with? --Jens Lallensack (talk) 22:36, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
  • The sources do not say. According to pages 147 and 148 of Bentley[1], it is the name of various cities mentioned by Diodorus, Pliny and Ptolemy. One is these seems likely to be the modern Licata. However, I do not see any source linking the two. If know of one, I would appreciate a pointer. simongraham (talk) 23:10, 12 October 2024 (UTC)