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Former good article nomineePhilippines at the 2008 Summer Olympics was a Sports and recreation good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
October 31, 2008Good article nomineeNot listed

Number of competitors?

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Xinhua claims that the Philippines are sending 15 competitors. We have sixteen listed here. Xinhua may be mistaken (it has been in the past on Olympic topics), but I felt I should point out the discrepency. Are we sure that all sixteen athletes we've listed are indeed going to Beijing? Aridd (talk) 08:34, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think that I solved the mystery. I cannot find a references that the Philippines is sending an archer called Jonathan Dean to the Olympics. I therefor removed this "competitor" from the list. Magalhães (talk) 09:56, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Xinhua claims "The country will send a squad of 15 athletes to Beijing to compete in boxing, taekwondo, shooting, archery, diving, swimming and weight-lifting." So, where's the 16 there? Xeltran (talk) 03:46, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

comments on article after nominated for GA

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I am not going to do the GA review but I do believe that the prose on the event should come before the results of the competitors of that event. It looks tidier that way. I know that the olympics wikiproject has done guidelines on how these pages should be presented. You could ask them to see if this is correct or not. I thought I would tell you this just so you could clear this up while waiting for a proper GA review. 02blythed. For some reason I can not sign my name.

I agree, good thinking... That's how it's done at Great Britain at the 2008 Summer Olympics, which is a GA already. I'll make the change. TheCoffee (talk) 12:33, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article doesn't seem to be broad enough in its coverage, which is a GA criteria. Looking at the GB article, it has a media section and Solar Entertainment's coverage of the Olympics should probably be mentioned at least. --seav (talk) 02:24, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Added a "Media coverage" section. Not sure what else to add there... Any more suggestions? TheCoffee (talk) 14:47, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Philippines at the 2008 Summer Olympics/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
Lead
  • Don't link bold items in the lead per WP:LEAD.
  • Descriptive titles don't have to be replicated in the lead, and I would suggest an alternative opening.
  • The lead is also very short. Ensure it summarises the rest of the article.
Ceremonies
  • "Molina was set to compete in the 200m breaststroke and 200m individual medley events at the games." Needs a reference. Is this the 2008 Olympics?
  • "Philippine President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo later asked the POC to reconsider their decision, requesting instead that popular Filipino boxer Manny Pacquiao be given the honor of carrying the flag." Why did he want Pacquiao rather than Molina?
  • "POC president Jose Cojuangco agreed with the president's decision," Confusing to have president used in the same sentence twice.
  • "Though the deadline for changing of the national contingent's composition in the Olympiad has already elapsed, special arrangements were made for Pacquiao to be given accreditation." Was this accreditation to compete or just carry the flag.
  • "Miguel Molina, who did not mind yielding the honor to Pacquiao, was instead given the role of flag bearer at the Closing Ceremony." No need to repeat his first name.
  • "The games' Opening Ceremony was attended by President Arroyo, the first Philippine president in history to do so." run-on sentence. Consider breaking into two sentences, or reword to "...Arroyo, who was ..."
Athletics
  • It looks very stubby due to the short paragraphs. I would at the very least combine the second and third pars.
  • "Torres, who hoped to improve upon her personal best of 6.63 meters, injured her left knee while picking up speed before taking off for her first jump." If she injured her knee, how come she was able to continue? Was this jump her recorded jump?
Boxing
  • "Though boxing has been the Philippines' traditional source of medals at the Olympics, the country's only representative for boxing at the Beijing Olympics was Harry Tañamor, who earned his spot at the games through his second place finish at the World Amateur Boxing Championships in 2007." Have you got a reference?
  • "However, he was defeated by Manyo Plange of Ghana in the first matchup of the games." Needs referencing.
  • Since he was predicted to win a silver, I think this section needs some expansion to include reaction by either the boxer, press, Philippines Olympic officials, or preferably all three. Also, why did he lose, when he was expected to do so well?
Diving
  • "The Philippines was represented in diving events by two athletes—Rexel Ryan Fabriga, who competed in the men's 10 meter platform, and Sheila Mae Perez, who competed in the women's 3 meter springboard. Neither diver advanced past the preliminary stage of the competition." Needs referencing.
  • "During practice in Xi'an weeks before the Olympic games" "During practice in Xi'an" is an introductory phrase and similarly needs a comma after Xi'an. How many weeks is weeks?
  • "Perez finished her preliminary round at 23rd place in a field of 30 divers." Needs referencing.
Shooting
  • "Ang got off to a poor start in the qualifying round," Get is a very poor verb, I was suggest finding an alternatie, e.g. made a poor start.
Taekwondo
  • "both of whom had previously competed in the 2004 Summer Olympics in Athens." Either "previously competed in the Olympics" or "competed in the 2004 Olympics"
  • "Tshomlee Go's first matchup was against Ryan Carneli of Australia, who Go had narrowly defeated at the 2007 World Taekwondo Championships." Should be "whom Go had..." not "who".
  • "losing in a 1-0 shutout." Scores should have endashes per WP:DASH.
  • "Mary Antoinette Rivero also lost in her first match, against Sandra Saric of Croatia." Needs a reference.
Weightlifting
  • "She is the first female weightlifter to compete for the Philippines in the Olympics, and the second weightlifter overall." Shouldn't that be "She was ..."
  • "Competing in the women's 58 kg class, 17 year-old" 17-year-old should be fully-hyphenated.
Media
  • "Additionally, Solar Entertainment broadcast Olympic events over five of its other cable stations." Probably should be "broadcast on" not "over".
General
  • Is there any reaction to the team winning no medals?
  • Numbers and units should be broken by non-breaking spaces per WP:MOSNUM.

A bit to do, but I'll put it on hold. Peanut4 (talk) 14:10, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No work has been done on the review since it was put on hold, and there is far too much work to do. All the above points need addressing, and the prose needs a lot of work on it to improve the flow, its quality and increase the breadth of prose and coverage. I'm sorry, but I'll have to fail the article for all the work to be done.

GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS):
    See above points about prose quality
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
    Some statements need referencing
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
    Prose could do with expansion
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:
    Peanut4 (talk) 23:32, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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