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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Peter Capaldi/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: OlifanofmrTennant (talk · contribs) 00:53, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Thebiguglyalien (talk · contribs) 16:05, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OlifanofmrTennant, thank you for working on this article and bringing it to GAN, but it doesn't look to be ready for nomination just yet. The article currently uses a WP:PROSELINE structure and seems more like a disjointed set of facts rather than an encyclopedic treatment. The career section needs some restructuring before it meets the "well-written" criterion; MOS:PARA is also relevant here. The personal life section might benefit from some tightening as well.

The article could also benefit from more content to meet the requirement of broad coverage: after reading the career section, I still don't know much beyond what roles he played and when. I suggest comparing the article's career section with the one at Matt Smith#Career. The latter still has some list-like descriptions, but it reads more smoothly and places the sequence of events in context. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 16:05, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

#Career

I started editing, and I'll continue tomorrow; I think the best way to remove the WP:Proseline, is using the already divided 5 sections as follows: -1991= movies, plays, TV guest appearences and TV films - 1992-2005=bigger TV roles, start as writer/director, radio plays - 2005-2012=Malcolm Tucker primarily- 2013-2017= The Doctor primarily- 2018-= general stuff. We can use the filmography articles for references, in addition to the ones already in the article, @OlifanofmrTennant DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 18:25, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

alright Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 02:08, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@OlifanofmrTennant, I have done #1, 4 and 5 out of 5, and shortened the personal life section slightly; can you check what we should change to make these three more compatible with MOS:PARA and less WP:Proseline/ make them, and see if there are any other issues that we can/should fix before bringing it to GAN. I'll do the other two parts tomorrow DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 18:24, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ill try and incoperate some reviews Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 18:28, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@OlifanofmrTennant I have done #2 and 4 too, I'll look for reviews too and what else we can do. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 09:48, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@OlifanofmrTennant, found anything yet? DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 16:42, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

honestly I haven't really been looking Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 17:53, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@OlifanofmrTennant I can't see any problems in the article, and it seems good enough for a GA to me, so I'm planning to nominate it in a little while, after adding a couple of paragraphs. You can be a co-nom, if you like? DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 15:49, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was planning to nominate it a while ago but it completly slipped my mind. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 15:54, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was planning the same, but decided to wait a little, in case some issue came up. Btw, I added the couple of paragraphs, nominating it now.(edit-oh, you already did LOL, good) DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 16:19, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If your intrested in conoming feel free to add yourslefQuestions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 16:32, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done

DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 16:38, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Passed. IntentionallyDense (talk) 21:25, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Peter Capaldi/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: OlifanofmrTennant (talk · contribs) 15:53, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: IntentionallyDense (talk · contribs) 03:37, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Co-Nominator: DoctorWhoFan91 (talk · contribs)

I will review this shortly. IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:37, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	IntentionallyDense (talk) 04:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.	IntentionallyDense (talk) 04:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.	IntentionallyDense (talk) 22:34, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).	Checked every 8th reference and found no issues. IntentionallyDense (talk) 02:47, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
	2c. it contains no original research.	IntentionallyDense (talk) 02:47, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
	2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.	IntentionallyDense (talk) 02:47, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.	IntentionallyDense (talk) 04:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).	IntentionallyDense (talk) 04:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.	IntentionallyDense (talk) 04:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.	IntentionallyDense (talk) 22:34, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.	IntentionallyDense (talk) 22:34, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.	IntentionallyDense (talk) 22:34, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
	7. Overall assessment.	I'm going to put this article on hold until the nominators can get back to me on my feedback. Pinging OlifanofmrTennant and DoctorWhoFan91. IntentionallyDense (talk) 04:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply] This article is well sourced, understandable, neutral, broad, and well written. Pass. IntentionallyDense (talk) 21:24, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you need a ref for how to pronounce his name but I may be wrong. IntentionallyDense (talk) 22:34, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is there any way you could replace the two metro sources, the youtube source, and Distractify source as they are all considered generally unreliable? IntentionallyDense (talk) 22:34, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The YouTube sources are both primary, one is him pronouncing his name and the other is an interview for the movie. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 04:29, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think the one for him pronouncing his name should be fine but I'm not sure on the other one. I'm not too familiar with BLP and their standards for GA. I may have to ask for a second opinion but I will come back to this. IntentionallyDense (talk) 04:35, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well it is definitely replaceable Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 05:24, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If it's easily replacable then I would prefer a better source. IntentionallyDense (talk) 15:01, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Youtube refs changed, metro and distracify- need to search. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 19:26, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good. Ping me when you've got that done! IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:46, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One metro ref changed to Manchester Evening News, other removed, as it was just a minor appearance. Found another source for Distractify ref, but it only mentions the first song, so I added the GamesRadar+ ref without removing the distractify one. Also I think we have replied to all of your suggestions, IntentionallyDense. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 07:07, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Everything looks good, thanks to both of you! IntentionallyDense (talk) 21:22, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

he was a member of the Antonine Players Could you either wikilink Antonine Players or give a quick explanation of what it is? IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:03, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 04:32, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
wrote an alternative pantomime of Sleeping Beauty A bit of a nitpick but should this be in italics since it's the title of a story? IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:03, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
{{Done}} Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 04:29, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The first few years of Capaldi's acting career were marked by sporadic appearances, beginning in a 1974 performance of the play An Inspector Calls,[18] and his first onscreen appearance occurring in 1981 as Joe Edwards in the Charles Gormley film Living Apart Together. may read smoother as The first few years of Capaldi's acting career were marked by sporadic appearances, beginning in a 1974 performance of the play An Inspector Calls; his first onscreen appearance occurred in 1981 as Joe Edwards in the Charles Gormley film Living Apart Together. or The first few years of Capaldi's acting career were marked by sporadic appearances, beginning in a 1974 performance of the play An Inspector Calls. His first onscreen appearance occurred in 1981 as Joe Edwards in the Charles Gormley film Living Apart Together. but let me know what you think. IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:03, 31 October 2024 (UTC) Done[reply]
in such diverse mediums as movies I think it would make sense to remove the "such" here but let me know what you think. IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:03, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 04:30, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The early years of his career saw him primarily acting in movies - on both the big screen and television: some of the major movies he appeared in include such titles as the archaelogy student Angus Flint in The Lair of the White Worm, and Azolan, a valet in pre-Revolution France in Dangerous Liaisons, both in 1988, and those on television include playing another Beatle George Harrison in John and Yoko: A Love Story in 1985, and Robert McRae in Chain in 1990. This sentence is really long and kind of hard to follow, could you rephrase a bit? IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:03, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done
becoming the oldest actor since the first incarnation to star as the Doctor and the third oldest to portray the character I think it would be relevant to include his age at this point in time. IntentionallyDense (talk) 04:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC) Done (I added a year to the ref's, as he began to star as the Doctor the year after his casting)[reply]
The start of the year saw Capaldi portraying I'm assuming you mean 2013 but since a date range is given for this section, could you specify? IntentionallyDense (talk) 04:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC) Done[reply]
Capaldi said that he was a fan of crime shows, but that often there is not much character development over the course of the show, and that they therefore created one where the plot changes the character and has a real impact on their life; with The Hollywood Reporter calling the series more interested in contemplating issues such as those of race, gender and other institutional disorders, in an ever increasing, politically polarized Britain. appears to be unsourced. Also is that last part a direct quote? IntentionallyDense (talk) 04:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC) Done[reply]
F, I forgot to add the ref.
Singer-songwriter Lewis Capaldi is his distant cousin,[115] and the two have worked together on one of the video versions for Lewis' "Someone You Loved", made in partnership with the charity organisation Live Life Give Life, in order to raise awareness for the issue of organ donation.[116] This sentence is a bit long and hard to follow. Could you rephrase it? IntentionallyDense (talk) 04:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC) Done[reply]
He grew up Catholic but is now an atheist Is there more details on this or is that all the info sources give? IntentionallyDense (talk) 04:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is another source which mentions Capaldi was raised and is formerly Catholic, but I can't access either that ref or this ref, so I'll try to expand this later. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 19:44, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The telegraph source says: "He isn't religious ("I grew up as a catholic but I don't believe in God now")" It isn't brought up again Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 01:59, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If the source doesn't say anything then it's fine as is! IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:45, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The other source also just says "I was brought up Catholic", so I don't think there is any point in adding it, will just keep as is. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 06:47, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

He was given an award for "Outstanding Contribution to Film & Television" at the Scottish BAFTAs. Was this award for a specific performance? IntentionallyDense (talk) 04:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, it was similar to lifetime achievement award. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 04:23, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see, thank you. IntentionallyDense (talk) 04:36, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.