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On 15 December 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved. The result of the discussion was not moved.

More people than Metro?

To this day, thousands of peseros carry an important part of Mexico City's public transport passengers, surpassing by far the capacity of the Mexico City Metro, STE trolleybuses, buses and taxis.

Can this be true? Do micros carry more people than El Metro? - Eric 06:04, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's true. I've added references to a official statistics page from the body regulating transportation in Mexico City, showing that peseros (including combis, micros, and full-length buses) account for 60% of "trips" in Mexico City, while the Metro carries only 14% of the total. Thanks for the request for a reference, and for reading the article! Roadmr (t|c) 17:38, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, okay, I was imagining just those maniacal green micros competing with the 9-line Metro, but if we include Metrobus, and all all the little local combis on the outskirts, I could see it. Thanks for adding the references! - Eric 19:34, 14 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, the 60% figure refers to all units under the "pesero" modality - the "green micro" includes combis, microbuses proper, but also a number of full-length buses under that modus operandi. Do imagine the same kind of driver, but operating a vehicle that's twice as large and heavy; quite dangerous I think. Metrobus, being operated under a different form of franchising, doesn't count; neither do taxicabs, of which there are a significant number. As per setravi, there are 28,000 concessions for peseros; 108,000 for taxicabs; about 1,800 among electric trams (trolleybuses) and city-operated buses; and perhaps 100 metrobus units. Also, the metro has 11 working lines (9 numbered lines plus A and B lines), with a 12th line planned, which should begin operation in 2010. Anyway, I digress, but there are a *lot* of peseros and their combined capacity (and amount of trouble they generate) should not be underestimated. Roadmr (t|c) 23:49, 14 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 15 December 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) ASUKITE 15:03, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pesero → ? – I don't know, maybe Public buses in Mexico City or Share taxis in Mexico City. The scope of the article is mostly about microbuses (i.e. these) that were operating in Mexico City (they have since been replaced by modern minibuses like these, but nowadays they are painted in purple). The lead also mentions that they are known as "combis", but those are share taxi vans like these. The term pesero is still being heard but "combi" is slowly replacing it and "micro" is more common for buses. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 19:49, 15 December 2021 (UTC) — Relisting. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 06:15, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Given the article wording I don't see a problem with the title. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:06, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. There seems nothing wrong with the title, and on the other hand neither of the proposed titles covers the whole topic. There is work needed on the phrasing of the article, particularly the lead... not all microbuses are peseros. But this proposed move would make things substantially worse. Andrewa (talk) 08:43, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.