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A fact from Perth Mint appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 13 September 2005. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the Perth Mint is the oldest operating mint in Australia and that it has produced over 4,500 tonnes of refined gold which represents about 3.25 percent of the total tonnage of gold ever produced?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2005/September.

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Until 1984, it also manufactured much of Australia's conventional coin currency

The article says that "Until 1984, [the Perth Mint] also manufactured much of Australia's conventional coin currency", however this is probably misleading. As far as I recall (I was working there at the time, although not in the coining section), by the early 1980s the mint was only making 1 and 2 cent pieces. This seems to be supported by the references, for example, quoting from [1] (I've added the bold here for emphasis):

In 1964, the Mint turned its energies to stock-piling bronze coins in preparation for Australia's change-over to decimal currency in 1966. A break occurred between 1968 and 1973, but steady production of two-cent coins continued until the end of 1983, by which time 829 million two-cent coins and 26 million one-cent coins had been minted in Perth.

and from 90 Golden Years, The story of the Perth Mint (p42):

The Melbourne Mint closed [in] 1964 and it was left to the the Perth Mint ... to help prepare much of the lower-denomination coinage for ... decimal currency.

and p44:

... 1968 was, to all intents and purposes, the end of Australian coinage activities by the Perth Mint. ... The cessation of coinage for the Commonwealth (the Canberra Mint had taken over) was noted ... [in Deputy Master Cook's 1969 report]. ... the London Mint's ... Melbourne branch had closed [in] 1968. The Perth branch would continue to operate on a limited scale ...

The Perth Mint's website is offline at the momement (but should be back 2010-01-04) so I can't check it just now.

In summary, the article implies that the mint was making much/most of Australia's coins up until 1984. However, while it may have made much/most prior to decimal currency in 1966, after that it only made 1 and 2 cent pieces. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mitch_Ames (talk • contribs) 01:24, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I Agree with this and also recall the mint only making the "copper" coins around this time. I propose to change the text to - "Until the end of 1983 , the Perth Mint also manufactured much of Australia's lower-denomination coin currency" Troy Reynolds (talk) 01:50, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It may be worth waiting until the Mint's website is back online (tomorrow) so that we can check any "history" page on it. Mitch Ames (talk) 02:08, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Troy Reynolds (talk) 03:31, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I looked over the Mint's website and did not find any history regarding the prodution of Australia's coin currency. I have updated the article using my suggestion above using [2] as a source. Troy Reynolds (talk) 06:48, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, the Mint was not making much of Australia's circulating coins Bronsuchecki (talk) 07:45, 16 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Regarding the June 2014 notice on this page:

This section may have been copied and pasted from http://www.perthmint.com.au/visit_the_mint_the_perth_mint_history.aspx (DupDet · CopyVios), possibly in violation of Wikipedia's copyright policy. Please remedy this by editing this article to remove any non-free copyrighted content and attributing free content correctly, or flagging the content for deletion. Please be sure that the source of the copyright violation is not itself a Wikipedia mirror.

as a senior executive of the Perth Mint I can confirm that the Perth Mint does not have any problem with content from our website being copied and used on this Wikipedia entry.

Bron Suchecki Manager, Analysis and Strategy The Perth Mint Email: bron.suchecki @ Perth Mint URL

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Not the sole bullion mint

Since 2020, the Royal Australian Mint has produced gold and silver "investment coin" products. The current description "Australia's official bullion mint" implies exclusivity, which is misleading.

Xofg (talk) 00:37, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Since 2020 controversy about selling diluted gold

Notably the recent billions of diluted gold they sold to china, but you can find many more historic items where people bought straight from the mint and got diluted gold. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.132.183.200 (talk) 11:26, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Just for the record, the problem wasn't that the gold was "diluted" (it had the required 99.99% gold), but that it had more silver in it than the 0.005% allowed by the Shanghai Gold Exchange Standard.^[1]

you can find many more historic items where people bought straight from the mint and got diluted gold — Can you provide some references to support that statement? Mitch Ames (talk) 12:36, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-06/perth-mint-gold-doping-china-cover-up-four-corners/102048622

Like 2019 they said to media > “It’s a wonderful way of laundering conflict gold,” he said. “The gold is genuine, but it’s not ethically sourced ... They look completely genuine, they assay correctly, and they weigh correctly as well.”

And on 2023 drama they responded > The gold dilution program was designed to help the mint save just over $600,000 annually.

Seemingly all the -bought- diluted or blatantly fake Perth gold was from other sources, alas. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.132.183.200 (talk) 19:03, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-06/perth-mint-gold-doping-china-cover-up-four-corners/102048622

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