Talk:Personal Rule

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The period is not called the Eleven Years Tyranny by historians - they call it the personal Rule. Also there is no point to having this entry, it is discussed well enough in the Charles I article. - *jb 20:48, 26 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The Whig Historians did call it the "Eleven Years Tyranny", but their views are now very outdated.

Cite? 72.144.198.53 01:15, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This article needs to be fitted into a broader structure. A more ordinary title with an encyclopedia and a reader in mind would be Personal rule of Charles I, 1629-1640. This would become a main article with a hatnote at Charles I of England, would it not? --Wetman (talk) 10:20, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Man, this article is really important! Why does it still have an "unreferenced" tag?! And you call yourselves a wikihistory project?! AnthonyUK (talk) 02:58, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Scotland and Ireland

At present the article starts of as follows:

The Personal Rule [...] was the period from 1629 to 1640, when King Charles I of England, Scotland and Ireland ruled without recourse to Parliament

The word "Parliament" here in fact links to the Parliament of England, which of course had no authority in Scotland. (Ireland is a trickier point.)
My notes show that there was at least one parliament in Scotland during this period (in 1633), and at least one Irish parliament (in 1634–35).
I don't know enough about this period to be sure, but it seems on the face of it that the personal rule relates purely or mostly to England, and that the references in the lede to Scotland and Ireland should come out, as they give a misleading impression. Andrew Gwilliam (talk) 12:37, 18 September 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Unsourced paragraph moved to the talk page

With this edit on 5 March 2011, an editor using an IP address (67.225.3.232 ) added a paragraph about how popular the King was. I am moving it to this talk page (and removing the summary from the lead), because it expresses a point of view but it has not been attributed to any experts, and a request for it to be sourced has been appended to the paragraph for a shade under 2 years. Such analysis needs inline attribution as it goes against the common view that the personal rule was a major contributor to the start of the Civil War.

"which in turn helped to make the Personal Rule popular with the common people"

Despite the King's unconventional methods of raising money, the absence of Parliamentary taxation limited the tax burden during the Personal Rule. This combined with the country's avoidance of the Thirty Years' War that was ravaging Europe made the 1630s a time of relative prosperity in England compared to the Continent, which in turn helped to make the Personal Rule popular with the common people, who had no political influence with parliaments in any case. Charles became especially popular with commoners in rural areas, this not coincidentally being the constituency where the King would find his most reliable support in the coming Civil War.^{[citation needed]}

-- PBS (talk) 07:50, 31 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]