Talk:Permission to Dance

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Permission to Dance article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

This page is not a forum for general discussion about Permission to Dance. Any such comments may be removed or refactored. Please limit discussion to improvement of this article. You may wish to ask factual questions about Permission to Dance at the Reference desk.

Korea Mid‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Korea, a collaborative effort to build and improve articles related to Korea. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how use this banner, please refer to the documentation.KoreaWikipedia:WikiProject KoreaTemplate:WikiProject KoreaKorea-related articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the Korean popular culture working group.

Pop music Mid‑importance

	Pop music portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Pop music, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of articles related to pop music on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Pop musicWikipedia:WikiProject Pop musicTemplate:WikiProject Pop musicPop music articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Songs

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Songs, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of songs on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SongsWikipedia:WikiProject SongsTemplate:WikiProject Songssong articles

Single?

I think this is a single as there is a separate download on their website and unique artwork. It is not unprecedented for singles to be included as part of a CD with other singles. If it was just a "song" I don't think it would have its own artwork and separate digital release. Heartfox (talk) 19:20, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah it's a single. When I created the article, there wasn't any information on it. I'll add the cover. Thanks.--Lirim | Talk 19:24, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 28 August 2021

This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

Permission to remove this paragraph from the article: In an cover story published by Billboard on BTS in August 2021, the magazine noted how BTS' fans "exploited loopholes in music chart rules" to manipulate the commercial success of the band's singles in the U.S., especially "Butter" and "Permission to Dance", through unlimited bulk purchases of the song on BTS' website, and crowdfunding techniques, in which PayPal is used to pool money from fans across the globe to buy multiple copies of "Permission to Dance", in order to inflate the song's sales on the U.S. charts. Furthermore, Billboard dubbed it "highly unusual" how "Permission to Dance" debuted at number one on the Hot 100 chart while "Butter" fell six spots to number 7 the same week, and in the following week, "Butter" jumped back to number one spot, switching positions with "Permission to Dance", which declined to number 7.^[1]

As it contains false information, BTS was indeed asked if they knew about rumours considering chart manipulation, they have however never been outright accused of chart manipulation. This was merely a suggestion made by a freelance journalist, and does not reflect the views of the Billboard Charts itself. See the article in question: https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/9618967/bts-billboard-cover-story-2021-interview The author of this paragraph (user Lirim.Z) has also made several of these edits on multiple wikipedia pages that promote falsehoods and manipulated truths. Margot1106 (talk) 13:52, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:10, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ S. Kwaak, Jeyuyp (August 26, 2021). "Inside the Business of BTS — And the Challenges Ahead". Billboard. Retrieved August 26, 2021.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)

Inclusion of Billboard article

While Billboard is a reliable source, I'm not sure if we need a paragraph for cover story regarding chart manipulation in three articles; currently, there's one in BTS, Butter (song), and here. The inclusion of the paragraph is somewhat controversial as it is (see Talk:BTS). I don't object to a balanced paragraph about the article in the former two, but the primary focus of the Billboard article is the chart performance of Butter, with Permission to Dance receiving less coverage. Is it a bit WP:UNDUE to include it here, given that it already exists at BTS and Butter? OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 14:05, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I don't know if the paragraph in BTS is gonna stay for long (so far the consensus per the RfC points to removal) but it's true that the focus was on Butter. Not to mention the wording is pretty much the same in the three articles (even before my edits). - Ïvana (talk) 17:25, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] S. Kwaak, Jeyuyp (August 26, 2021). "Inside the Business of BTS — And the Challenges Ahead". Billboard. Retrieved August 26, 2021.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)

[1]