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Expulsion of Jews from France

There should be something in here about the expulsion (and murder) of thousands of Jews in France. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashi#Rosh_yeshiva — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.140.162.45 (talk) 22:47, 8 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Why? What is the relevance? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.110.243.192 (talk) 05:05, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

before

According to the article (and countless historical sources), the People's Crusade occured BEFORE the first crusade.

So, why is it listed after the first crusade on the crusade template bar on the side?

Well, it's supposed to be part of the "First Crusade series" within that template, but it was difficult to make the template work that way. Adam Bishop 22:45, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Aren't We Missing Alot?

While I'm far from being an expert on the subject, I have been studying the First Crusade for a school Research Paper. The accounts that I've looked at list much more information, and a slight variations on the account given here. Some of the variation may be due to my having not done a full study on the matter, but some of my favorite parts of the people's crusade were left out of this account, (most notably the crusaders deciding a goat and a duck were filled with the holy spirit) as well as some descriptions of the battles and characters that can be gleaned from accounts. I would really encourage an update on this section -- and would suggest reading the account written by Albert of Aachen which can be found is several primary source books.

70.184.17.136 00:20, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Of course. This is an encyclopedia article - it summarizes the main points. If you want to read more, by all means, Wikipedia is just the very tip - it is like comparing a candy bar to a full-course meal. I would not suggest adding interesting but trivial tangents such as the goat and duck story unless there is a good reason. -- Stbalbach 01:17, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the duck - it was in fact a goose and also a goat, referred by Albert of Aachen maybe as a way of discrediting Emico/Emicho. Please see Medieval Sourcebook: Peter the Hermit and the Popular Crusade and The Crusades and the expansion of Catholic Christendom, 1000-1714, John France. Cheers --Santosga (talk) 13:53, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Did Hermit go to crusade before Sans-Avoir?

Article says: The French, however, were not willing to wait for Peter and the Germans and under the leadership of Walter Sans-Avoir a few thousand French crusaders left before Peter reached Hungary on May 8. Sans-Avoir was leader of these French, but how they were not willing to wait for Peter since Peter was already in Hungary? --QWerk (talk) 08:30, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sugestion

People's Crusade was series of events that is ranging from Belgrade to Nicaea. IMHO, it is better to define these events and work each of them separately, while main People's Crusade page integrates those events. I suggest following events (which can also be refered to from First Crusade article):

First Crusade Passing Bulgaria
Battle of Xerigordon
Battle of Helenopolis —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mudy s (talk • contribs) 17:51, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Confusion about a sentence meaning

"An outbreak of ergotism, which usually led to mass pilgrimages anyway, had also occurred just before the Council of Clermont."

The above sentence found in the background of the article is very confusing in terms of what it's trying to say or express.

The link to "ergotism" says its a fungi affecting grain cereals.

So say something like "The outbreak of ergotism, which usually led to mass pilgrimages due to food shortages caused by ergot, had also occurred just before the Council of Clermont."

Also what the source for this sentence? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.12.188.77 (talk) 20:14, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also known as the Popular Crusade

I'm studying the crusades and most often I refer to this one at the Popular Crusade. I was thinking we should add it to the intro.

source: http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/peterhermit.asp 155.47.184.154 (talk) 21:10, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Seems reasonable. I've added it. Oreo Priest ^talk 17:26, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What point is there for a section on jewish pogroms?

It is another matter entirely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.6.247.253 (talk) 04:48, 21 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I think it is relevant in demonstrating a contrast to the behaviour of the official crusade.≈≈≈≈ <Peter Frankopan The First Crusade 2012>  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Getmenot (talk • contribs) 10:24, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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There is an error in the first line. A template shows up that doesn't exist

See above. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.102.80.150 (talk) 19:13, 30 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ambiguous sentence

The last sentence of the lede is ambiguous. The sentence before it offers two opposing possibilities, then is followed by: "The expedition's independence has been used by some historians such as Hagenmeyer to prove this."

--23.119.204.117 (talk) 02:43, 20 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]