Talk:Pentney
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[edit]Note that this permission is a dual permission under GFDL 1.2 or later and CC-BY-SA-3.0 or later. Stifle (talk) 19:37, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
COI & Link removal
[edit]The article was flagged as having a potential conflict of interest, however there was no indication as to what may have been causing the problem. I can only assume that this was due to the link out to the Save Pentney website. I have now removed this link. --PentneySam (talk) 22:12, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
- I agree, WP:WHYCOI? -- samj inout 18:32, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Tone
[edit]Yep. Main problem is that it's largely a text dump from [1]. I know the material was donated, but that doesn't give it any special status, especially as it's from a personal website and completely unsourced. It's also way too folksy and promotional: "Returning to the village, you're greeted by the friendly sight of the church of St Mary Magdalene ... recently a small community of foreign workers have joined the happy family of villagers". Gordonofcartoon (talk) 05:19, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Sources
[edit]Not sure what's needed here. Can a mod or an admin please help me by suggesting where citations and sources are needed? Thanks PentneySam (talk) 17:10, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not a mod or admin, but that's not a requirement for answering questions of this sort. Essentally, everything that says something not self-evident. For example:
- Although the exact age of the village is unknown, evidence exists to suggest that there was a settlement there during Roman times, and possibly even earlier.
The Augustinian priory was established on the site by Robert De-Vaux in 1075, when he invited a number of Augustine Canons to come and settle at Pentney.
- Although the exact age of the village is unknown, evidence exists to suggest that there was a settlement there during Roman times, and possibly even earlier.
- Where can the reader verify this information? Unfortunately we need more than www.savepentney.co.uk, as Wikipedia needs citing to "reliable third-party published sources" (e.g. books, papers, official publications, etc that come from publishers of known reputation - see WP:RS and WP:V). I won't pretend it's a brilliant example, but Lympstone is partially done as an example of typical sourcing for historical details in a village article.
- I can help with some of it (the Times has a piece on the Pentney hoard) but as you know the area, it'd be great if you could help with where the other historical bits come from. Gordonofcartoon (talk) 18:13, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Cleaning up
[edit]The requests for improvement of sourcing having been ignored, time for cleanup. Material below needs sourcing. Gordonofcartoon (talk) 18:30, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- Pentney today is a rich and varied community consisting of long standing native Pentney families, blow-ins from other parts of the UK, many of which have settled in the village after serving at the local Royal Air Force station at Marham, and recently a small community of foreign workers have joined the happy family of villagers.
- ... who in turn allowed Oliver Cromwell's armies to destroy the buildings in target practice exercises. Since then, the stone from the priory has been removed bit by bit to be used as building materials in the houses of the village, where the intricate carvings can still be seen to this day. Until recenty, the Abbey was being used to host medieval themed banquets, and a shooting club still operates on the land to this day.
- Another theory suggests that the name might be of Celtic origin, and might mean Hill Island. Pen being the old Celtic word for a hill. However, as very few examples of Celtic words have survived in Norfolk terminology and place names, this theory is less likely.
- evidence exists to suggest that there was a settlement there during Roman times, and possibly even earlier.
If the first element of the place name is celtic it is NOT pen. It is more likely to be a river name Pante derived from pant (a hollow).Oxford dictionary of British place names - A.D. Mills 2003 edition. Can I also point out that (Kings)Lynn is a Celtic name as is the Ouse. Creake (North and South). As are the first elements in Wereham and Brancaster. In short Celtic names are not as rare in Norfolk as you might think. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.22.66.153 (talk) 15:40, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
Pentney Quarry Campaign
[edit]Does this section have a purpose? The tone and content seems very political to me. I feel it should be removed --Ironimp (talk) 22:16, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Which District of Norfolk
[edit]In the introductory paragraph it is stated that Pentney is part of North Norfolk non-metropolitan district. In the Governance section King's Lynn and West Norfolk District is given. Which one is correct? --Oldontarian (talk) 07:06, 26 October 2015 (UTC)